02-08-2005, 12:33
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02-08-2005, 13:21
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So sad. 
He even graduated the Q... should have DX'ed the heffer & gone on to better days.
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02-08-2005, 15:03
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I'd like to know how the SOB got into the Q Course to begin with.
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02-08-2005, 15:29
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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney
I'd like to know how the SOB got into the Q Course to begin with.
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Wouldn't a background check have eliminated him?
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02-08-2005, 20:41
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Well, to hell with him he's dead and like Colonel said probably shouldn't have been there anyway. But:
1. Too bad he's dead, they should have put him on a plane to Iraq and made him a one man ambush. You know he'll pull a trigger.
2. What the hell is a Group guy doing at his ex's house and he's in Training Group?
I hate soap opera shit.
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02-08-2005, 20:57
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
2. What the hell is a Group guy doing at his ex's house and he's in Training Group?
I hate soap opera shit.
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That's the FIRST thing I thought! The Group guy will have to answer some serious questions after he recovers. 
Personally...I'd fry his ass!
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02-09-2005, 06:27
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Originally Posted by CPTAUSRET
Wouldn't a background check have eliminated him?
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I would have thought so and I would have also thought that the shrink should have picked up something during SFAS. However, I think that when the incident in NJ happened he might have been considered a junvenile and his records might have been sealed-don't know that for sure though.
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02-09-2005, 06:47
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Down here your sealed records are opened for a S/TS clearance. I noticed this new edition on the forms the other day (got them for a job I missed out on). Does the same thing not happen there?
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02-09-2005, 07:15
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Team Sergeant's worst nightmare!
Once you get somebody like that on a team he's a team sergeant's worst nightmare. I hated dealing with Womack and the family advocacy folks.
While it was the guys fault some of the time I found that most of the time the shemale was an expert at pulling strings and pushing hot buttons to flip out a guy.
Man, I could talk for days about the three cases I got intangled with. Even when the guy is a good team member and it's her fault you say "Fix it or find a new home."
The one guy loved his wife and just would not give up on the dream they would get back together. She was a pure-T Bitch and loved to set him up. She would call him up and say she wanted to talk and for him to come to her place. When the door bell range she'd open the door dressed in a nighty and a guy, who was not clued in, would be sitting on the sofa. Of course an altercation would take place, the cops would be called and he would be taken downtown, "AGAIN". A few rounds of that and I'm telling the guy, "Man, you're stupid, stop doing that."
He moved on to a staff job to try and work it out but ended up getting out with bad paper anyway.
Oh, well.
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02-09-2005, 07:40
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02-09-2005, 08:50
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Kia ora, bro
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Women, can't live with them, can't kill them
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Yes you can, you just have to be crafty. Bury the bitch in the nextdoor neighbours back yard and not your own.
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02-09-2005, 09:30
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Yes you can, you just have to be crafty. Bury the bitch in the nextdoor neighbours back yard and not your own.
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02-09-2005, 14:15
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Or you have your own crematorium...
I can't count the number of times we students would sit around and wonder if the 18D course apparatus was ever used…
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02-09-2005, 14:35
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I recall following the news of the incident in New Jersey. Whatever the guy's involvement, if he was there, he should never have even been in the military.
While it's all tragic, I think it's better that he did not get to a team.
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02-09-2005, 14:36
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I believe there were several instances of a trooper coming home early and unexpectedly from Vietnam only to find their wife in bed with Jody. Those who shot the wife instead of Jody tended to get off with light sentences.
I believe it was in this time frame when the saying: "Spend a dime and save a marriage." was coined.
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