02-06-2005, 20:17
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I know this is about the boots, but...beautiful pictures!
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02-06-2005, 21:53
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ah, the new M-9
I have good experience with Bates boots as well. I wear the M-9 predecessor; the 8" Gore-Tex Enforcer with Vibram Eagle outsole. I've used it for running, hiking, rock climbing, stretching (swimming next).
The sole does "self-clean" as advertised and provide excellent traction outdoor (had no problem jogging outside last Sat when ATL was frozen), while indoor...
well, when it's raining outside I was up for some squeaky "ice skating" as I entered my dept building.
Tested it when car broke down and had to hike/run 8 miles up from Tallulah Falls to the nearest town along US 441. The boot + Thorlo combat socks gave flawless performance.
I was really thankful of the ankle-support after the sun sets down and the only light came from incoming cars: There were holes, trash, tree trunks etc. along the highway that caused my friends to stumble in their tennis shoes and hurt their ankles.
I'm going to have to ditch the pair in exchange with jungle boots for better conditioning, though
Questions, Sir:
- Does the boot sole squeaks when wet on the floor (esp. marble floor)?
- Did you take out the Gore-tex plate from the lace or did yours come without it?
- Does the protruding lace-holes/hooks lacerate the lace cord over time?
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02-07-2005, 12:16
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Originally Posted by frostfire
Questions, Sir:
- Does the boot sole squeaks when wet on the floor (esp. marble floor)?
- Did you take out the Gore-tex plate from the lace or did yours come without it?
- Does the protruding lace-holes/hooks lacerate the lace cord over time?
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Holy geeze! Don't call me sir - I respond just fine to "hey you" but Dan is OK also 
I don't know about the wet sole but I'll try to find some wet and tile to play with today.
Gore Tex plate??? I guess mine did ot come with that.
I've only had the boots for a week so I don't know how the laces will hold up. These boots are designed so damn well that I can't imagine that the lace holes would be any less well made.
Couple more things. The Bates folks said these were made of pigskin. I asked if that had anything to do with the ongoing conflicts overseas and delivering good solid head kicks but they denied that and said it was because the pigskin breathes better - dries quickes and will dry soft as opposed to cow hide drying stiff.
Also - the 4th set of eyelets up from the tow are self locking ones - meaning you can pull your laces as tight as you want and they will stay that way - leaving the top 3 to be tied however tight you want 'em. Great little innovation.
MM - great to be here man!
DF - nice pic!
Dan
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02-07-2005, 16:32
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Dan,
I called you Sir out of respect, age difference, and the prospect that I might have to salute you one day anyway, so I'd better get used to it.
The picture should show the location for the supposed Gore tex plate, or Bates website should show it better:
http://www.batesfootwear.com/Catalog...OIID=&StyleID=
Seems you got the "special edition." May I know how much you spent for those?
That self-locking feature is a great innovation IMHO.
Roller skates (esp. Hypno) have had that feature for years, 'bout time for the boot industry to catch up.
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"So we can suffer, and in suffering we know who we are" David Goggins
"Aide-toi, Dieu t'aidera " Jehanne, la Pucelle
Der, der Geld verliert, verliert einiges;
Der, der einen Freund verliert, verliert viel mehr;
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02-06-2005, 21:54
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great review and pics, java - thanks for taking the time. good to see you here.
cheers,
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02-06-2005, 22:15
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02-07-2005, 22:53
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I took them out into the mountains around Vegas a few days ago. 6 mile round trip up to Turtlehead peak. 1900 foot gain in elevation the last 1/3 of it. Mostly scree and gravel with big sandstone boulders and a 40ft wall to climb. Went up with a 55lb Kifaru Zulu on. After getting back down went for a 2 mile run with the pack on.
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On a side note, did you encounter any of those notorious mountain lions & were you prepared in case of contact?.... I wonder what that 55lb pack contained?
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"we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope" Rom. 5:3-4
"So we can suffer, and in suffering we know who we are" David Goggins
"Aide-toi, Dieu t'aidera " Jehanne, la Pucelle
Der, der Geld verliert, verliert einiges;
Der, der einen Freund verliert, verliert viel mehr;
Der, der das Vertrauen verliert, verliert alles.
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02-08-2005, 00:16
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No lions but I was prepared for them I went hiking with a guy that I could outrun 
I brought a lot of water (5 L) some chow, a Jetboil stove, MSR titanium Kettle, instant cider and coco, a Kifaru Parahootch, heavyweight wool top and windbreaker, extra socks, panel marker, folding saw, strobe, lighter, Gerber multi tool, cellphone, medi kit, Miox and water filter, camera with extra batteries, space blanket - that's about it I think.
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02-08-2005, 03:15
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I love this shit.
Do the Parahootch and the hammock, next, brother.
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02-08-2005, 07:33
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Java-
I split the thread off to a new thread for your hammock review. It deserved its own thread as it was a very good review. I didn't want it to become lost in this Bates boot thread.
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Link to new thread: Review of hammock http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ead.php?t=5552
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02-10-2005, 08:04
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No lions but I was prepared for them I went hiking with a guy that I could outrun
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Dan, That sounds like good thinking and would sure be an unusual test of the shoes.
In Oregon we have a very healthy population of mountain lions. I live in the middle of one of those "population centers" and have the big kitty kitties close to the house on occasion.
After reviewing a few livestock kill scenes by the cats I've noted that they go ahead and kill as much as they want and I suspect they get the fastest ones (sheeps, calves and last year, a young horse) first so they don't get away.
Let the other guy run first to see what the cat does.
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02-10-2005, 11:30
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Where or when are these going on the market? I've looked on the bates footware web site but to no avail.
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02-10-2005, 13:05
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Where or when are these going on the market? I've looked on the bates footware web site but to no avail.
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Good questions, looks like it's time for someone from Bates to give up some info.
Dan, Did you get a card from someone at Bates?
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