06-07-2018, 11:17
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Communist California, Dear Leader Knows Best
This is better than reality TV........ watching Communist California slowly implode.
55 gallons for everyone!!!!!! (Except if you're a hollywood celebrity or liberal/communist politician, then you are not affected by this communist law.)
Enjoy your bitches, oh snap, I meant beaches..........
Tammy Bruce: California's new water rules are making people flee the Golden State
By Tammy Bruce | The Washington Times
“Please sir, I want some more,” is no longer a sentiment just for Oliver Twist in the orphanage. A new law in California limits how much water can be used by each household. Now their showers, how many flushes, and how often they can do their laundry will be under the watchful eye of the state government.
This from politicians who have pushed policies creating homeless and drug abuse crises throughout the state. They have now decided to clamp down on the use of the most basic needs of civilized living.
As the blog Zero Hedge put it, “it’s now against the law to do laundry and shower on the same day in the Sunshine State,” and they’re not exaggerating. Under the guise of addressing “climate change,” the new bill rations water to a degree that makes it impossible to maintain a healthy home environment.
Perhaps the state wants everyone to feel like the drug addicts living in California’s ever-expanding homeless tent cities?
Zero Hedge reported, “Assembly Bill 1668 is where it gets personal. This establishes limits on indoor water usage for every person in California and the amount allowed will decrease even further over the next 12 years. ‘The bill, until January 1, 2025, would establish 55 gallons per capita daily as the standard for indoor residential water use, beginning January 1, 2025, would establish the greater of 52.5 gallons per capita daily or a standard recommended by the department and the board as the standard for indoor residential water use, and beginning January 1, 2030, would establish the greater of 50 gallons per capita daily or a standard recommended by the department and the board as the standard for indoor residential water use …’”
How do families feel about the rationing of water? CBS-13 in Sacramento asked a few: “‘With a child and every day having to wash clothes, that’s, just my opinion, not feasible. But I get it and I understand that we’re trying to preserve … but 55 gallons a day?” said Tanya Allen, who has a 4-year-old daughter.”
To give you perspective on how much water basic chores require, the station noted an eight-minute shower uses about 17 gallons of water, a load of laundry up to 40, and a bathtub can hold 80 to 100 gallons of water.
Felicia Marcus, chair of the State Water Resources Control Board, explained this is happening, “So that everyone in California is at least integrating efficiency into our preparations for climate change.” That’s nice. This same bureaucrat then noted to CBS-13, “Right now we lose up to 30 percent of urban water just to leaks in the system.”
As the state rations the water of the average of family, making it impossible for everyone to shower and wash clothes, let alone use water to wash the dishes, and perform any myriad of other efforts to keep a home clean and a family healthy, it’s the state itself and its crumbling infrastructure that is the biggest waster of water.
In 2014, during the drought, Californians found out what happens when policy focuses on controlling people, which is much easier than actually governing and maintaining infrastructure.
The Pasadena Star-News reported, “As 20 million gallons of drinking water rushed down Sunset Boulevard and flooded the UCLA campus this summer, drought-conscious residents threw up their hands. How are three-minute showers going to make a difference, they asked, when the city’s pipes are bursting? Turns out the UCLA flood was just a drop in the sea of potable water that leaks or blows out of underground pipes. California’s water distribution systems lose up to 228 billion gallons a year, the state Department of Water Resources estimates — more than enough to supply the entire city of Los Angeles for a year.”
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...den-state.html
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06-07-2018, 12:18
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Water, water, everywhere...and not a drop to drink. Great! Now they're going to start flooding states east of them and start the cycle all over again.
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06-07-2018, 12:47
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If you full time it in a motor-home or a camper, you would be surprised how little water can be lived on.
I understand "per capita" meaning 55 gallons per person in the household. So two people can use over 3000 gallons a month, and I think that is a lot. A person just can't waste it. I don't think me and my wife use over 2000 gallons a month and some to spare. We wash the car, showers every night, laundry when clothes are dirty.
I saw a program a year or so ago that said Calis problems are from not constructing as many dams as they should have and all the rainfall is just running through to the ocean. Now they are paying for it.
The chickens are coming home to roost for my friends in Cali. They can always move to Wisconsin.
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06-07-2018, 13:46
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Ah yes, the boondoggles continue. Home here is sold and another bought in another state oh well. Still mortgage free, debt free. I'll miss the woods and animals that I woke up to...suburbs next for me, some things I'll miss, others I won't.
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06-07-2018, 14:04
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Sadly, two of the primary cities the rejects from the bay area are aiming for are Austin and Boise. And recently, some jack wagon refugee from san fran tried to run for the Idaho legislature in Boise but, thankfully, didn't make the cut. Frankly, I think there should be a strict 10-yr moratorium (quarantine) period for anyone coming from the communist regions of Kalifornia before they can partake in any political activities aside from voting.
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06-07-2018, 16:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chucko
If you full time it in a motor-home or a camper, you would be surprised how little water can be lived on.
I understand "per capita" meaning 55 gallons per person in the household. So two people can use over 3000 gallons a month, and I think that is a lot. A person just can't waste it. I don't think me and my wife use over 2000 gallons a month and some to spare. We wash the car, showers every night, laundry when clothes are dirty.
I saw a program a year or so ago that said Calis problems are from not constructing as many dams as they should have and all the rainfall is just running through to the ocean. Now they are paying for it.
The chickens are coming home to roost for my friends in Cali. They can always move to Wisconsin.
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This is California, things aren't that simple. They did this, temporarily, about 30 years ago. The reduction was a percentage, 20% I think. I fought back and told CWS that we'd just had a baby and now had an au pair living with us. They raised our allotment. Not long after they implemented this they raised the rates because they were losing money (LA's DWP had just spent a couple of million dollars on a meeting table). When the restriction went away, the higher rates did not.
Not only are they not building new reservoirs, they have been removing old ones for decades.
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Originally Posted by 1stindoor
Water, water, everywhere...and not a drop to drink. Great! Now they're going to start flooding states east of them and start the cycle all over again.
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There are a dozen roads across the Colorado River and only 3 major ones. It wouldn't be hard for AZ to stop them.
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Originally Posted by TOMAHAWK9521
Sadly, two of the primary cities the rejects from the bay area are aiming for are Austin and Boise. And recently, some jack wagon refugee from san fran tried to run for the Idaho legislature in Boise but, thankfully, didn't make the cut. Frankly, I think there should be a strict 10-yr moratorium (quarantine) period for anyone coming from the communist regions of Kalifornia before they can partake in any political activities aside from voting.
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I agree. The year that we moved to AZ from CA was an election year and we were immediately eligible to vote. The only local and state candidate that we recognized on the ballot was Sheriff Deaver . . . and he'd just been killed. Most people from CA would go ahead and vote for anyone with a "D" next to their name. We didn't vote for the "R"s because we just didn't know anything about them. We did vote for Sheriff because we did our homework on him and, while he's no Deaver as a personality, he has continued Deaver's mission locally.
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Last edited by PSM; 06-09-2018 at 15:55.
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06-07-2018, 18:04
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The chickens are coming home to roost for my friends in Cali. They can always move to Wisconsin.
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We're full & not interested in being turned into Denver. Tell 'em to go up to Seattle; lots of overpriced bad coffee already up that way. I left in '69 and am LMAO.
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06-07-2018, 19:39
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Originally Posted by 1stindoor
Water, water, everywhere...and not a drop to drink. Great! Now they're going to start flooding states east of them and start the cycle all over again.
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Just like the moronic liberals who flee NJ to Pa every year trying to escape the tax burden they created. Then they start pushing for the same policies in Pa that wrecked NJ.
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06-07-2018, 20:04
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Badger52,
I would like to promise we won't cross the river but we will because there are some good restaurants that we like over there and of course we'll pick up some worlds best cheese curds for family on the way up the road. Promise we won't stay long yet...
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06-07-2018, 20:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger52
We're full & not interested in being turned into Denver. Tell 'em to go up to Seattle; lots of overpriced bad coffee already up that way. I left in '69 and am LMAO.
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Surely Madison has some sort of refugee resettlement program  , they invaded Seattle a long time ago, How about Flint or Detroit?
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06-07-2018, 23:27
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Well, if we could keep the damn movie stars and drug runners out of this state it would be good. Pass it on: Montana is full.
In my area of the state the Dakota oil boom a few years back has brought in more undesirables and low life scum than the "lets vote for bike trails and a new library" crowd. I'm quite a few hours away from ND but they seem to land here and never leave! We don't have much population in this state (around a million now, I think) but when you get the kalifornians and the druggies drizzling in it sure makes ya wonder how things are going to turn out. I don't think the hard winters are fazing them anymore!
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06-08-2018, 02:54
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Surely Madison has some sort of refugee resettlement program  , they invaded Seattle a long time ago, How about Flint or Detroit?
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Madison IS a refugee resettlement program, lol. I think it's called the UW system. Used to be a large influx from Chicongo north to Milwaukee until a work requirement was instituted.
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06-08-2018, 05:02
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Southern Kalifornacate has been stealing water from the Colorado river forever.
If they were to stop the theft they would revert back to a desert.
Their agriculture empire is built on stolen water and it can't continue.
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Legislative Analyst's Office, October 16, 1997
Colorado River Water: Challenges for California
The Colorado River supplies over 60 percent of the water used annually in Southern California. California is currently using 20 percent more Colorado River water than it is entitled to under the "Law of the River." The Secretary of the Interior has directed California to come up with a plan to live within its entitlement of 4.4 million acre-feet of water per year.
LAO Findings
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Competing Water Demands Limit Reallocation to California. Beginning in 1996, there was not enough unused water from other states' entitlements to reallocate to California as in prior years. However, California's total demand for Colorado River water will continue to increase, driven mainly by population growth.
Without Plan, Immediate Reduction in Supplies Likely. The Secretary of the Interior has advised California that, absent a plan on how it can live within its entitlement, he will be less likely beginning in 1999 to make water available to California above its entitlement. The immediate impact of a reduction in Colorado River water supplies would fall on urban users.
Draft Plan Relies on Conservation and Transfers. The Colorado River Board is responsible for developing the California plan. The board's draft plan relies first on conservation measures, some of which would free up water from agricultural use so that it can be sold to urban users. Other measures include purchasing water from other states.
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LAO Recommendations
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Statewide Solution Should Be Considered. The Colorado River Board should consider expanding the focus of its plan to include statewide measures in addition to those which pertain solely to the use, supply, or transfer of Colorado River water.
Legislature Should Review Plan. The Legislature should hold oversight hearings prior to the plan being submitted to the Secretary of the Interior. These hearings would enable the Legislature to assess whether the plan's measures are consistent with legislative priorities.
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06-08-2018, 09:45
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It's that bad here yes. Just got a notice from the Western Municipal Water District a few weeks ago that said we should expect our water bill to go up at least 30% over the next several years.
Can't wait to retire and leave...
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06-08-2018, 19:30
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I can only imagine the opening few minutes of a "sales pitch" by Governor Bill Haslam, seeking to attract business to Tennessee ...
"Well hello, company XYZ, we have a great business climate here in Tennessee.
For example, we have no state income tax.
We are a "right to work" state where unions cannot blackmail employees.
We have plentiful, inexpensive water.
We have plentiful inexpensive electricity.
We have a pro-business legislature, with a Republican "super-majority" in both
the House and the Senate.
Did I mention we have no income tax?
We have a structure protective of doctors accused of malpractice.
In most counties, you can register your car for a year for less than $80.
We have a very "Pro 2nd Amendment" legal structure, and we expect citizens
to be responsible for their actions.
Did I mention we have no income tax? Not State, Not County, Not City. None.
We will not allow you to trash the environment, but we balance the laws and
regulations of the state to strike a fair position between growth, manufacture, transportation and ecology.
Did I mention we have no income tax?
In Kalifornia, $750,000 will buy you a two bedroom hovel. In Tennessee, $750,000 will buy you an estate, with acreage."
No wonder Beretta moved here, Hankook Tire, Saturn (years ago) Volkswagen, LG, etc. etc.
"Oh, and by the way, we have a state constitutional mandate for a balanced budget, and our state
consolidated retirement system is funded at over 94% percent."
and so on.
I am so proud to be a citizen of Tennessee, and I pity those on the left coast
and other left leaning environs whose situation can only get worse.
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