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Old 05-16-2017, 06:16   #1
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Chelsea Manning to Remain in Army, Receive Health Care Benefits

Justice...wherefore art thou?

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Chelsea Manning to Remain in Army, Receive Health Care Benefits

Chelsea Manning will remain on active duty following her release from military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas on May 17, the U.S. Army said Sunday.

Manning will be an unpaid soldier and will be eligible for health care and other benefits, USA Today reported. Army spokesman Dave Foster told the paper that she will remain a private in the Army.

"Pvt. Manning is statutorily entitled to medical care while on excess leave in an active duty status, pending final appellate review," Foster said.

Manning was granted clemency in the final days of the Obama administration. She thanked former President Obama last Tuesday in her first statement since being granted clemency.

"For the first time, I can see a future for myself as Chelsea," she said in the statement. "I can imagine surviving and living as the person who I am and can finally be in the outside world. Freedom used to be something that I dreamed of but never allowed myself to fully imagine."

Manning, a former intelligence analyst in Iraq, was convicted in 2013 of leaking more than 700,000 secret military and State Department documents and battlefield video to WikiLeaks. She served nearly seven years of her 35-year sentence at Fort Leavenworth. She was known as Bradley Manning before transitioning in prison.

Manning, a native of Crescent, Oklahoma, was convicted in a military court martial of 20 counts, including six Espionage Act violations, theft and computer fraud. Manning was acquitted of the most serious charge of aiding the enemy.

Manning acknowledged leaking the materials, saying she wanted to expose the U.S. military's disregard about the effects of war on civilians. She also said she released information that she didn't believe would harm the U.S.

Manning was arrested in 2010, and came out as transgender after being sentenced. She filed a transgender rights lawsuit and attempted suicide twice last year, according to her lawyers.

Her attorneys said Manning was subjected to violence in prison and argued the military mistreated her by requiring her to serve her sentence in an all-male prison, restricting her physical and mental health care, and not allowing her to wear a feminine-style haircut.

--The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Old 05-16-2017, 08:25   #2
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I would not sweat it, "it" will probably attempt to suck start a .38 in the near future.
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:31   #3
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If berry commuted his sentence,, NOT pardoned..

Where is the fortitude of ALL pay and dishonorable discharge??

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The judge, Army Colonel Denise Lind, ruled in January 2013 that any sentence would be reduced by 112 days because of the treatment Manning received at Quantico.[191] On February 28, Manning pleaded guilty to 10 of the 22 charges.[30] Reading for over an hour from a 35-page statement, she said she had leaked the cables "to show the true cost of war". Prosecutors pursued a court-martial on the remaining charges.[192]

The trial began on June 3, 2013. Manning was convicted on July 30, on 17 of the 22 charges in their entirety, including five counts of espionage and theft, and an amended version of four other charges; she was acquitted of aiding the enemy. The sentencing phase began the next day.[1]

Manning's offenses carried a maximum sentence of 90 years.[196] The government asked for 60 years as a deterrent to others, while Manning's lawyer asked for no more than 25 years. She was sentenced on August 21 to 35 years in prison, reduction in rank to private (private E-1 or PVT), forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and a dishonorable discharge.[2] She was given credit for 1,293 days of pretrial confinement, including 112 days for her treatment at Quantico, and will be eligible for parole after serving one-third of the sentence.[2] There may also be additional credit for good behavior, which means she could be released after eight years.[196] She is confined at the United States Disciplinary Barracks (USDB) at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.[34]

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In January 2017, a Justice Department source said that Manning was on President Obama's short list for a possible commutation.[206] On January 17, 2017, President Obama commuted all but four months of Manning's remaining sentence; she is scheduled to be released on May 17, 2017.[35][6] In a press conference held on January 18, Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute—and not pardon—her sentence."[6][7]

On January 26, 2017, in her first column for The Guardian since the commutation, Manning lamented that President Obama's political opponents consistently refused to compromise, resulting in "very few permanent accomplishments" during his time in office.[207] In response, President Donald Trump condemned Manning as an "ungrateful traitor" and said that she should "never have been released."[208]

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Old 05-16-2017, 11:55   #4
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:02   #5
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President has the power to commute or pardon anyone convicted of a FEDERAL law including treason
Okay, but do they also have the power to predict the outcome of the pardon?

OBAMA SUCKED as a President f the United Stats of America, so what power of recourse does anyone have? You know, for those that are chomping at the bit....


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Old 05-16-2017, 12:05   #6
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:15   #7
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Pardon and Commuted sentence are two diffrent things.

Pardon= fresh start no more conviction get all rights back

Commuted sentence is get out early card, conviction still stands. I am not an expert but I think he can predict outcome ie no more time, cut time in half, no more dishonorable discharge etc. You would have to ask a lawyer about that part of it. It could be that the way it was written was basically gets out now, conviction stands no more punishment and the judge ruled like this. It could be the judge just pissed all over current law and inject personal bias like they have been for some time now.

No matter what the POS should not get off so easy.


You and I can agree on that B.O.!!!


This guy should be pulling bed-pan duty at Walter Reed, with no breaks, no lunch, and no transport. Make him walk a damn mile that other more honable Soldiers can't.
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Old 05-16-2017, 12:31   #8
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I think this is all much ado over nothing. IIRC, his pay and allowances go into abeyance until the final review - nothing new here. If he's granted a new trial based upon fault or legal error, it starts all over again. Until the final review, he will be able to utilize military medical care for his hormones, etc (unless you are a straight, hetero-sexual male requiring hormones due to jump/range/training accident). I suspect that the review will occur fairly quickly and he'll collect his DD and be on his way to Ross for a kicky new outfit.

I've been out of Crim-Law for a bit and just getting back up to speed on the new stuff so maybe Two-Guns will chime in.
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Old 05-16-2017, 13:34   #9
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I think this is all much ado over nothing. IIRC, his pay and allowances go into abeyance until the final review - nothing new here. If he's granted a new trial based upon fault or legal error, it starts all over again. Until the final review, he will be able to utilize military medical care for his hormones, etc (unless you are a straight, hetero-sexual male requiring hormones due to jump/range/training accident). I suspect that the review will occur fairly quickly and he'll collect his DD and be on his way to Ross for a kicky new outfit.

I've been out of Crim-Law for a bit and just getting back up to speed on the new stuff so maybe Two-Guns will chime in.
If he's granted a new trial, can they convict him all over again and undo the commutation, or would this be a "double jeapordy" situation?
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Hell, give him a General Other than Honorable discharge with no VA benefits and let him walk. Like someone else said, chances are he'll off himself before long. (Unless he somehow crosses the Clinton gang and they'll kill him)
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Old 05-16-2017, 17:18   #11
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Justice...wherefore art thou?

Obama is like a fart in a spacesuit. It never goes away!

Maybe it could be sent to the front lines of Syria to play.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:20   #12
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"Pvt. Manning is statutorily entitled to medical care while on excess leave in an active duty status, pending final appellate review,"
Can't sell it back so when all the accrued leave is burned then comes the Dishonorable & bye-bye benefits? Guess I don't get, even under these circumstances, how someone can accrue leave in a non-pay status.

Latest t-cell moved on so will fire up the mower; at least that will be cut & dried when finished.
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Harvard makes convicted spy Chelsea Manning a 'fellow,' igniting firestorm

Harvard makes convicted spy Chelsea Manning a 'fellow,' igniting firestorm

Bradley gets a new career at Harvard speaking on "the social, technological and economic ramifications of Artificial Intelligence." Is he/she/it offended at being named a "fellow"?

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Former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell on Thursday announced his resignation as a senior fellow at Harvard after the university named U.S. Army soldier-turned-convicted felon Chelsea Manning a visiting fellow. Senior leaders in our military have stated publicly that the leaks by Ms. Manning put the lives of U.S. soldiers at risk," Morell said. "I have an obligation in my conscience -- and I believe to the country -- to stand against any efforts to justify leaks of sensitive national security information."
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Harvard makes convicted spy Chelsea Manning a 'fellow,' igniting firestorm

Harvard has lost my respect long ago. Hiring the convicted felons to teach our nations children is beyond reprehensible. Totally disgusting if you ask me.
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OK, what a BS Statement:

"She speaks on the social, technological and economic ramifications of Artificial Intelligence,” the Harvard announcement said. “As a trans woman, she advocates for queer and transgender rights as @xychelsea on Twitter.”


OMG...stop calling "It" a "She" He/She does not know, or could possibly feel like we do as real women; especially our freaking emotional hissy fits (like I have been having for a bloody year). The F'ing insanity of it....and FU Harvard for siding with a bloody traitor....
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