Evan McMullin

spaike97 · 10-07-2016, 02:01

Just want everyone to know that there is still an alternative in this race. Evan McMullin. This guy actually makes sense and is way better than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Both of them are douchebags to be honest. Especially Hillary, she should be in prison.

**Pete** · 10-07-2016, 07:13

You've been a member over a year with 4 posts.

This is the best you can come up with for # 4?

**The Reaper** · 10-07-2016, 07:14

I will bet you any sum you wish that McMullin does not win.

A vote for anyone other than Trump is wasted at a time when we need every vote we can get.

TR

bblhead672 · 10-07-2016, 08:50

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Originally Posted by spaike97

Just want everyone to know that there is still an alternative in this race. Evan McMullin. This guy actually makes sense and is way better than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Both of them are douchebags to be honest. Especially Hillary, she should be in prison.

I've read your other posts about who you and where you came from, so I'm willing to give you a pass on possibly being a stupid troll and allow that you are merely uninformed about what is at stake in this election.

If you understand what it will mean to freedom and liberty to have a liberally stacked, left wing Supreme Court for a generation then you must acknowledge that there is only one acceptable vote in this election - Trump.

echoes · 10-07-2016, 10:09

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

A vote for anyone other than Trump is wasted at a time when we need every vote we can get.

TR

Amen, TR Sir!!!

GO-TRUMP-GO! Sis and I will be out in force on Elect-TRUMP-Day.

Holly

**Pete** · 10-07-2016, 11:15

My problem with 3rd Party folks, especially Libertarians, is they are a bunch of individuals sitting in their safe space drinking Latte and Craft Beer as they text and tweet each other about how smart they are and how great their candidate is.

I have Libertarians in the family. I ask them why all the focus at the top of the ticket where you'll never win. Why not get all the Libertarians together at the local level and get some L's elected to city and county government. Start getting news reports "Mr Smith, the Libertarian member of the city council said......." Get the bottom organized and then go for the top.

Answer? Basically "Too much work. Oh, need to get back to texting and tweeting about how mean it was to not include our guy in the debates."

spaike97 · 10-07-2016, 11:36

I'm not trolling and I don't want Hillary Clinton to be the president. If she becomes president and put a left wing judge into the empty slot in Superme Court it's going to cause great damage to America, and that damage is likely going to last for generations. It is clear that Hillary Clinton is the worst choice in this election but supporting EM is not supporting Hillary. He has a chance to win. His goal is to block Hillary and Trump from reaching 270 votes and send this election to the House. It's not sure whether Trump or Evan would win the fight there, but Hillary certainly don't stand a chance in a House controlled by Republicans.

I understand why people support Trump and why people believe votes should be concentrated to avoid a Hillary White House. I worry about it too but Evan is making progress and people from both sides are supporting him, mostly Hillary supporters and those who are not going to vote at all this year, actually. I helped passing fliers/knocking doors and when I talk to Dems, I talk trying to persuade them. When I talk to Trump supporters, I talk to just to make sure they know all their options.

My point is there is someone called Evan McMullin, I think this guy makes sense and is better than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, if anyone is looking for an third party alternative, there is one.

bblhead672 · 10-07-2016, 11:49

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Originally Posted by spaike97

I'm not trolling and I don't want Hillary Clinton to be the president. If she becomes president and put a left wing judge into the empty slot in Superme Court it's going to cause great damage to America, and that damage is likely going to last for generations. It is clear that Hillary Clinton is the worst choice in this election but supporting EM is not supporting Hillary. He has a chance to win. His goal is to block Hillary and Trump from reaching 270 votes and send this election to the House. It's not sure whether Trump or Evan would win the fight there, but Hillary certainly don't stand a chance in a House controlled by Republicans.

I understand why people support Trump and why people believe votes should be concentrated to avoid a Hillary White House. I worry about it too but Evan is making progress and people from both sides are supporting him, mostly Hillary supporters and those who are not going to vote at all this year, actually. I helped passing fliers/knocking doors and when I talk to Dems, I talk trying to persuade them. When I talk to Trump supporters, I talk to just to make sure they know all their options.

My point is there is someone called Evan McMullin, I think this guy makes sense and is better than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, if anyone is looking for an third party alternative, there is one.

So you honestly believe that someone polling at 2% has a chance to disrupt the election? I didn't even know he existed before your posting, so how is he going to get enough votes to split the EC in a three way tie?
Your time (and credibility) would be better spent doing everything possible to ensure HRC doesn't win, and third party candidates are not the answer.

TacOfficer · 10-07-2016, 11:56

There were better candidates, but alas we are left to choose between the two that remain.

Now as others have said, you can choose for liberty, or socialism?

Stop being naive or an unnamed unicorn might stick his up yours.

TO

Yea, Trump wasn't my first pick but now he's my only pick.

Badger52 · 10-07-2016, 13:43

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Originally Posted by Pete

My problem with 3rd Party folks, especially Libertarians, is they are a bunch of individuals sitting in their safe space drinking Latte and Craft Beer as they text and tweet each other about how smart they are and how great their candidate is.

I have Libertarians in the family. I ask them why all the focus at the top of the ticket where you'll never win. Why not get all the Libertarians together at the local level and get some L's elected to city and county government. Start getting news reports "Mr Smith, the Libertarian member of the city council said......." Get the bottom organized and then go for the top.

Answer? Basically "Too much work. Oh, need to get back to texting and tweeting about how mean it was to not include our guy in the debates."

You gave the exact same guidance & exhortation this time 4 years ago, sir. My, my... just look at how far they've come.

tonyz · 10-07-2016, 14:01

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Originally Posted by spaike97

I'm not trolling and I don't want Hillary Clinton to be the president. If she becomes president and put a left wing judge into the empty slot in Superme Court it's going to cause great damage to America, and that damage is likely going to last for generations. It is clear that Hillary Clinton is the worst choice in this election but supporting EM is not supporting Hillary. He has a chance to win. His goal is to block Hillary and Trump from reaching 270 votes and send this election to the House. It's not sure whether Trump or Evan would win the fight there, but Hillary certainly don't stand a chance in a House controlled by Republicans.

I understand why people support Trump and why people believe votes should be concentrated to avoid a Hillary White House. I worry about it too but Evan is making progress and people from both sides are supporting him, mostly Hillary supporters and those who are not going to vote at all this year, actually. I helped passing fliers/knocking doors and when I talk to Dems, I talk trying to persuade them. When I talk to Trump supporters, I talk to just to make sure they know all their options.

My point is there is someone called Evan McMullin, I think this guy makes sense and is better than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, if anyone is looking for an third party alternative, there is one.

This is the type of thinking that gave Obama his second term - don't give him a third with the Hildabeast.

Any abstaining or voting 3rd party works against Trump and for Hillary. Pete just gave you a much more productive and realistic roadmap for success.

And, there will likely be more than one seat available on the Supreme Court in the next few years. That alone, will set the tone for decades.

It's Trump or Hillary...and Hillary by virtue of her policies and her actions (Benghazi, etc.) is forever disqualified from ever holding that office.

spaike97 · 10-07-2016, 15:57

Yea I don't support Libertarians either. Gary Johnson don't even know North Korea's leader's name. I'm actually not a third party person. I've been supporting GOP since I started following politics and I think it's just that this year's GOP nominee is not good enough. Evan's stance is actually more aligned with a typical Republican.

I still believe that Evan has a chance to win. He only needs two-three states to block Hillary and Trump from receiving majority vote. He has been really impressive in the Utah especially being a candidate with minimal public reknowness and a really really late entry, I think next poll in Utah is going to be way better than the latest 12% and hopefully that will spread to surrounding states give Hillary some hit.

I'll definately do more research on that election to see how third party candidate is going to aid(aided) Hillary(Obama) because that's what I worry about the most. Hillary should never be the president.

tonyz · 10-07-2016, 16:14

spaike97 - maybe link below will help.

Quick and dirty - Obama won in 2012 by about 4%.

Between the throw away votes and the lack of turnout...presidential elections can be quite close - especially when the dead and illegals historically vote for only one party.

Hillary wins with wasted votes - combined with folks sitting on the sidelines because they dislike Trump - and dead folks.

Not good.

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2012/fed...ctions2012.pdf

sfshooter · 10-07-2016, 19:18

spaike97,
do you really think that if it came down to the house deciding the election that the Republican majority is going to go for a guy who isn't a part of their party and damn sure wasn't the front runner for their party? Wake up!!
You have 2 choices: Socialism or a hopeful reprieve from the last 8 years. keep trying to suck votes to a candidate that has no chance of succeeding and you will find out just how wonderful socialism is!

Trump was not my first choice, but he's the only one now. HRC will further destroy us for sure!

Mills · 10-07-2016, 19:37

The time to stop the orange faced wrecking ball was during the primary process. Screw this 3rd party garbage, while i am disgusted with Trump and find him to be the punchline of a bad joke......I will mist likely vote for him.

But the way this have been the last 60 days......sounds more like votes for Trump might end up being the wasted ones. The longer that cunt can hide behind the scenes while Trump keeps putting his own dick in his mouth.....the more likely another Clinton presidency is.