01-09-2005, 01:30
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‘The Salvador Option’
The Pentagon may put Special-Forces-led assassination or kidnapping teams in Iraq.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/
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01-09-2005, 05:00
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I always figured they were already operating here.
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01-09-2005, 09:01
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The story is BS.
It is based on leftist revisionist media opinion on what happened in El Sal. For example, the Gs killed far more people than the government. Looks like amn opportunity for a brainwashed liberal reporter to try to stir up old muck, expose a new generation to his propoganda, and spin it as a new story.
The US never led or participated in any of those atrocities by either side. To imply that we did (and plan to do so again) is insulting to me and my brothers who served and died to keep El Salvador free. Elements of the Catholic Church, particularly the Jesuits, with their Liberation Theology, were heavily involved in supporting the insurgents. I have personally witnessed a Jesuit priest with a trunk full of guns and ammo smuggling them to the insurgents.
I have friends who were there and became aware of atrocities. Almost invariably, they immediately set upon the path to report and investigate those illegal acts.
If we wanted to start bumping off insurgents (not innocents) in Iraq, the elements would already be in place, we don't need to put anything else there but permission to proceed. We do not engage in those practices, and anyone who would requires approval from the POTUS.
TR
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01-09-2005, 09:07
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The first target for this should be the two shit bird authors of the article. I see no reason why it really needs to be covert, there are a lot of folks out there that need to just be killed-plain and simple and we shouldn't hide the fact that this is the price that they are going to pay. The agency should take the lead with appropriate sheep dipped folks with the ground truth to make it happen.
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01-09-2005, 10:22
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Fox News just had a snippet on this. Just a heads up as it will probably be repeated at some point.
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01-09-2005, 11:28
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This on'e going to gather speed like a snowball rolling downhill.
I agree, Col. M.
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01-09-2005, 11:37
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
The story is BS.
It is based on leftist revisionist media opinion on what happened in El Sal. For example, the Gs killed far more people than the government. Looks like amn opportunity for a brainwashed liberal reporter to try to stir up old muck, expose a new generation to his propoganda, and spin it as a new story.
The US never led or participated in any of those atrocities by either side. To imply that we did (and plan to do so again) is insulting to me and my brothers who served and died to keep El Salvador free. Elements of the Catholic Church, particularly the Jesuits, with their Liberation Theology, were heavily involved in supporting the insurgents. I have personally witnessed a Jesuit priest with a trunk full of guns and ammo smuggling them to the insurgents.
I have friends who were there and became aware of atrocities. Almost invariably, they immediately set upon the path to report and investigate those illegal acts.
If we wanted to start bumping off insurgents (not innocents) in Iraq, the elements would already be in place, we don't need to put anything else there but permission to proceed. We do not engage in those practices, and anyone who would requires approval from the POTUS.
TR
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I fail to see the negatives of targeting the command structure of the "Army of Allah", the "People's Army" or the "Armed Forces of Liberation". If you want to be Comandante Zero, ya takes yer chances.
much ado about nothin'
Probably a psyops op running by leak.
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01-09-2005, 12:51
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This is something better left unsaid and un-reported. We acquired a strong, undeserved reputation as hired killers and assasins some time ago. I prefer the "De Opresso Liber" motto. We have to do what has to be done but . "Snatches" yes but look at death as a type of "collateral damage".
Also, keep in mind that many/most don't know the difference between Special Operations and Special Forces. I admire the Delta Force for ducking out of the lime light and they, or any of us, don't need this kind of publicity.
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