06-15-2016, 12:21
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Great news finaly
I work in a federal office building and we just got news that all recruiting offices and MEPS will be armed.
They will not be able to respond to outside threats, but will be able to defend their own buildings.
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06-15-2016, 12:32
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So they will post a sentry but still not permit employees to carry?
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06-15-2016, 13:16
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So they will post a sentry but still not permit employees to carry?
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They are military and can carry weapons anywhere in the United States.
The decision not to arm them sooner is beyond stupid. islam is at war with the West, we need to stay armed.
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06-15-2016, 13:25
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I meant to refer to any DoD civilians, sorry for the lack of clarity.
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06-15-2016, 13:31
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Does this apply to store-fronts or just within federal facilities?
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06-15-2016, 14:16
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I meant to refer to any DoD civilians, sorry for the lack of clarity.
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06-15-2016, 15:39
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They are military and can carry weapons anywhere in the United States.
The decision not to arm them sooner is beyond stupid. islam is at war with the West, we need to stay armed.
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That was Bill Clinton's decision to disarm us while we are back in the CONUS.
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06-15-2016, 18:38
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Just speculation, but I would not be surprised if the rules went like this:
1. Any weapons (probably a single M9) will be kept locked up and not easy to access.
2. 1 mag, 5 rounds only (military 9mm FMJ).
3. Access will be so difficult that it will no longer be needed, or there won't be anyone left to use it.
4. Typical onerous overnight storage rules will see someone required to check it into a police arms room each night and out each morning.
5. Eventually #4 will become so much of a PIA that the weapon just stays in the cop shop.
I really hope I'm wrong on all of this.
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06-24-2016, 07:50
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Originally Posted by mikec71
I work in a federal office building and we just got news that all recruiting offices and MEPS will be armed.
They will not be able to respond to outside threats, but will be able to defend their own buildings.
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Not quite. The decision to arm facilities off major installations is left to the Services, and each Service is handling things a bit differently, from designated armed personnel responsible for an entire office, to allowing folks to carry POWs concealed, to continued prohibitions on both personal and government firearms. Even within each Service, the rules for different locations can vary.
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06-24-2016, 08:10
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Not quite. The decision to arm facilities off major installations is left to the Services, and each Service is handling things a bit differently, from designated armed personnel responsible for an entire office, to allowing folks to carry POWs concealed, to continued prohibitions on both personal and government firearms. Even within each Service, the rules for different locations can vary.
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Agree. The Air Force will continue with it's "safe spaces" and "gun free zones" I'm sure........
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06-24-2016, 08:27
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Originally Posted by Divemaster
Just speculation, but I would not be surprised if the rules went like this:
1. Any weapons (probably a single M9) will be kept locked up and not easy to access.
2. 1 mag, 5 rounds only (military 9mm FMJ).
3. Access will be so difficult that it will no longer be needed, or there won't be anyone left to use it.
4. Typical onerous overnight storage rules will see someone required to check it into a police arms room each night and out each morning.
5. Eventually #4 will become so much of a PIA that the weapon just stays in the cop shop.
I really hope I'm wrong on all of this.
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Details, details. LoL.
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06-24-2016, 15:45
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Details, details. LoL.
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06-24-2016, 16:36
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Originally Posted by Divemaster
Just speculation, but I would not be surprised if the rules went like this:
1. Any weapons (probably a single M9) will be kept locked up and not easy to access.
2. 1 mag, 5 rounds only (military 9mm FMJ).
3. Access will be so difficult that it will no longer be needed, or there won't be anyone left to use it.
4. Typical onerous overnight storage rules will see someone required to check it into a police arms room each night and out each morning.
5. Eventually #4 will become so much of a PIA that the weapon just stays in the cop shop.
I really hope I'm wrong on all of this.
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You and I both know you're spot on..........
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06-24-2016, 22:47
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Agree. The Air Force will continue with it's "safe spaces" and "gun free zones" I'm sure........ 
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Believe it or not, the USAF was the first Service to run a pilot where some recruiting locations were allowed concealed carry of issued weapons, and others were allowed concealed carry of personal weapons. Yeah, took me by complete surprise too.
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06-25-2016, 07:35
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Believe it or not, the USAF was the first Service to run a pilot where some recruiting locations were allowed concealed carry of issued weapons, and others were allowed concealed carry of personal weapons. Yeah, took me by complete surprise too.
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You're right, hard to believe.
And to think, while on active duty I've carried concealed weapons (locked and loaded) on civilian aircraft, next to heads of state, ambassadors senators congressmen etc. But must register for a concealed weapons permit in most states.
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