05-11-2016, 09:47
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"Certified Sabbath Mode"
"Certified Sabbath Mode"
So I purchased a new electric range & convection oven. (Don't have gas) I'm doing my due diligence in looking at features and such and come to this:
"Certified Sabbath Mode"
And I thought WTF is Certified Sabbath Mode???
So I ask the Google god and he answers (Actually GE answered) :
RANGE - EXPLANATION OF "CERTIFIED" SABBATH MODE FEATURE
Traditional Jews adhere to religious laws that distinguish between holy and secular periods of time, with the holy times being annual holidays and the weekly Sabbath, which lasts from sundown Friday until after sundown on Saturday. These laws detail various activities that are restricted during holy times. Since some of those laws apply to the use of electricity, this presents some complications for observant Jews is using electrical appliances, Following consultation with a kosher certification agency, we have made some changes to the controls on many of our range products.
How does this feature work ?
When the Sabbath mode feature is activated, the oven may be set either to go on immediately and stay on for a set amount of time, or turn off automatically after a set amount of time. The oven will stay at the temperature the user selects when entering the Sabbath mode. The digital control display will not show time, temperature, or selected oven function until the Sabbath mode feature is manually de-activated at the conclusion of the Sabbath or holiday. While this may seem unusual to many people, it makes it possible for observant Jews to serve warm food on holidays, the underlying principle being that it is permissible to use electricity that is already on but not to turn it on or off during the duration of the holiday. Observant Jews are thus prohibited from turning on or off the oven, or taking an action that causes the oven control display to change during the Sabbath or religious holidays.
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http://products.geappliances.com/app...ontentId=17357
Leave it to the Jews to put a whole new spin on stupid........ (and no, the range I selected does not have the "Certified Sabbath Mode", it does however have the "Screw with me and I'll give you Viking Blood Eagle Wings" mode.)
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05-11-2016, 09:51
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When someone can't adhere to a law...they circumvent it with a loophole in order to make themselves feel better about breaking it so they can sleep better at night.
Makes sense to me....
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05-11-2016, 10:31
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You would think that a Jew that entertain buying an appliance with that feature would just have a shabes goy to take of that stuff for them....
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05-11-2016, 10:48
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Isn't legalism fun?
There's a well-known Rabbi quoted as saying "the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath."
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05-11-2016, 11:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
"Certified Sabbath Mode"
So I purchased a new electric range & convection oven. (Don't have gas) I'm doing my due diligence in looking at features and such and come to this:
"Certified Sabbath Mode"
And I thought WTF is Certified Sabbath Mode???
So I ask the Google god and he answers (Actually GE answered) :
RANGE - EXPLANATION OF "CERTIFIED" SABBATH MODE FEATURE
Traditional Jews adhere to religious laws that distinguish between holy and secular periods of time, with the holy times being annual holidays and the weekly Sabbath, which lasts from sundown Friday until after sundown on Saturday. These laws detail various activities that are restricted during holy times. Since some of those laws apply to the use of electricity, this presents some complications for observant Jews is using electrical appliances, Following consultation with a kosher certification agency, we have made some changes to the controls on many of our range products.
How does this feature work ?
When the Sabbath mode feature is activated, the oven may be set either to go on immediately and stay on for a set amount of time, or turn off automatically after a set amount of time. The oven will stay at the temperature the user selects when entering the Sabbath mode. The digital control display will not show time, temperature, or selected oven function until the Sabbath mode feature is manually de-activated at the conclusion of the Sabbath or holiday. While this may seem unusual to many people, it makes it possible for observant Jews to serve warm food on holidays, the underlying principle being that it is permissible to use electricity that is already on but not to turn it on or off during the duration of the holiday. Observant Jews are thus prohibited from turning on or off the oven, or taking an action that causes the oven control display to change during the Sabbath or religious holidays.
cont:
http://products.geappliances.com/app...ontentId=17357
Leave it to the Jews to put a whole new spin on stupid........ (and no, the range I selected does not have the "Certified Sabbath Mode", it does however have the "Screw with me and I'll give you Viking Blood Eagle Wings" mode.)
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Been watching Vikings lately?
When I was looking at stoves a few years ago, the sabbath feature was on nearly all of the models with electronic ovens. It's on mine as well
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05-11-2016, 11:54
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Hunh. Duly-noted in my "I'll Be Damned" book.
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05-11-2016, 13:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen
Isn't legalism fun?
There's a well-known Rabbi quoted as saying "the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath."
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I'm so glad I don't have to hang out with any Pharisees.
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05-11-2016, 14:58
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So the store being able to discern folk's ancestry and beliefs explains a lot. And I just thought that Top was cheap. Now we know the reason, and it explains his Immaculate Conception comment in the other thread.
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05-11-2016, 15:55
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I thought maybe you'd gotten back to your hard rock roots....
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05-11-2016, 20:21
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... and on the Sabbath thou shall rest ...
That's "shall!" Not "may."
So the truly observant cannot work on the Sabbath.
What then, is work?
Work is starting a fire.
What is a fire? Even a single spark caused by the hand of man is a fire.
So to press an electric switch that would cause a spark is to cause a fire, and may not be done on the Sabbath.
In Israel there are elevators set to the Sabbath mode: from sunset Friday until sunset Saturday they stop at every floor.
That way no switches are pressed (no sparks are made) summoning the elevator or specifying the floor,
simply step on when the elevator arrives and step off when you have arrived at your floor.
A Sabbath oven can be preloaded and preset prior to Sabbath, and then the machine activates itself
without the "work" of man. And the family can enjoy a hot meal Saturday night.
And so it goes ...
Work is the bringing together of two things that are separate.
Therefore, one should not tie ones shoes on the Sabbath. Wear slip-ons.
(Although some learned rabbis state that no man shall be accountable for a
knot that may be untied by one hand).
I didn't spend all that time in Israel on the Negev Airbase project without learning a few things ...
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05-11-2016, 20:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craigepo
I'm so glad I don't have to hang out with any Pharisees.
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Now there's an opportunity to really stir up trouble.
A well-known Pharisee, who wrote the majority of the New Testament, was quoted as saying: "for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake."

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05-11-2016, 20:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen
"for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake."
 
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D'uh. That goes without saying. Though it did cost Adam a rib.
The Sabbath Mode is just a marketing tool for the new computer controlled ranges. And when the power goes off even gas ranges are useless.
Pat
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05-11-2016, 21:03
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WTF ever happened to personal responsibility/decision making?
Wait! That's not in fashion these days!
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05-11-2016, 23:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSB
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In Israel there are elevators set to the Sabbath mode: from sunset Friday until sunset Saturday they stop at every floor.
That way no switches are pressed (no sparks are made) summoning the elevator or specifying the floor,
simply step on when the elevator arrives and step off when you have arrived at your floor.
A Sabbath oven can be preloaded and preset prior to Sabbath, and then the machine activates itself
without the "work" of man. And the family can enjoy a hot meal Saturday night.
And so it goes ...
Work is the bringing together of two things that are separate.
Therefore, one should not tie ones shoes on the Sabbath. Wear slip-ons.
(Although some learned rabbis state that no man shall be accountable for a
knot that may be untied by one hand).
I didn't spend all that time in Israel on the Negev Airbase project without learning a few things ...
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This is some funny shitte......
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05-13-2016, 03:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSB
Negev Airbase project
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You helped build Uvda and Ramon, when Israel withdrew from the Sinai?
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