Old 02-16-2016, 20:13   #1
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Anyone have a source for material or sleeve to cover a suppressor, some thing to protect the hand, neoprene like...
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Old 02-16-2016, 21:42   #2
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Anyone have a source for material or sleeve to cover a suppressor, some thing to protect the hand, neoprene like...
What type or brand are you looking for? Nomex? Kevlar?


You might just purchase a good set of oven mitts. Something like these, EN07 rated to 932F.

http://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...withstand+932F
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:00   #3
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Leather works.
If you want to do it yourself, Tandys Leather has everything you need.
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Old 02-17-2016, 19:44   #4
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Check out the Silencer Shop for suppressor covers.
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Old 02-17-2016, 20:08   #5
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Rifle's Only HAD cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJkN8p3f0fo

I've got a few of the Rifle's Only HAD covers. I've also got a couple TAB gear, Warsport Warsock, and a Griffon Industries HMMS. The Rifles's Only is the best heat mitigation out there followed by the Griffon (which is basically the same design)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsBP...MPMX-5g48slxaw
Go to about 12:00 and see what happens after several mags. Griffon wrap

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Old 02-17-2016, 20:11   #6
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If you're looking to build your own, look at "header wrap" and then coat it with a silicone 1.1 mix from a marine store.
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Old 02-19-2016, 06:08   #7
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thanks guys, Ill check these out
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:11   #8
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You might also want to try Manta - they have a high-temp silicone suppressor sleeve that's pretty effective. The Reaper and I acquired one each at SHOT a couple years ago. I would strongly recommend NOT using neoprene (or anything else flammable) as I've seen suppressors start fires when laid on tables after an extended firing session.
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You might also want to try Manta
Kinda cool looking.
Reasonably priced..

What is it made of?? Looks like a molded "rubbery" material??
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Kinda cool looking.
Reasonably priced..

What is it made of?? Looks like a molded "rubbery" material??
A "molded rubbery material". (A silicone compound similar to silicone oven mits.)
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Can we assume that between yourself and TR, the units were put thru significant heat stress??

Did the cover get sticky or gummy?
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Neither one of us has "stressed" the covers. Personally, I rarely use a cover because I rarely shoot enough to worry about the heat. Suppressors are expensive and annoying to replace when damaged/worn out so we tend not to "blister the paint" unless it's somebody else's and that's the intent of the exercise. (Manufacturers have been known to be generous with ammo and cans when demonstrating product. ) A question to ask yourself is "why do you need it?". Is the insulation to protect whatever might come into contact with a hot suppressor worth the heat trap (selfsame insulation) that keeps the suppressor from cooling to ambient as quickly as possible? Personally, I would add a MG barrel mitt or a quality oven mitt to my range bag and not worry about a cover.
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Old 02-19-2016, 20:31   #13
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I concur with Peregrino.

Heat is the enemy of your suppressor.

Covering it with a heat trap is, IMHO, adverse to the durability of the can.

Unless your cans and ammo are free and you have to be able to handle it immediately.

I am having trouble visualizing that scenario.

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Old 02-22-2016, 10:39   #14
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Suppressors, Signatures and heat control

For range detail: welding gloves.

For slow rate of fire: a cover, like Manta, or Elite Iron, ext.

Couple of things to think about:

Really depends on what you want from it. As TR mentioned, when you wrap a suppressor that heat has to go somewhere.

Dangers of signature:

When using a cover, the biggest concern would be the bright thermal circle it would make on the front cap of the can from long distance. On some calibers and variables with even small ROF it would quickly become a bright beacon. It sort of defeats the purpose of signature mitigation when you trade mirage control and safety, for loss of equipment life and battlefield detectability. (Think Thermal/FLIR/SWIR) Although, depends on your tactical situation, would also depend on how much thermal movement we are talking about. Hard use Odor of some covers may also present a problem.

Why Suppressors heat up:

The rate of heat transfer for the host is related to caliber, (powder burn), Barrel length, material and volume, (Projectile friction properties and material/powder burn), weapon heat mitigation, and rate of fire.

For the Suppressor we deal with the suppressor material, volume in relation to barrel volume (powder volume burn), and gas dwell time. The suppressor is going to get hotter faster than the barrel in most cases due to what it is expected to do in capturing all that hot gas. (Heat will be travelling from the muzzle to the breach as well as the breach to the muzzle.)

Color: The color of the suppressor and or paint types can effect its thermal rate of dissipation. Really complicated stuff, but think about anything black in the sun.

Scientific Solution:

There is a way to make it so that suppressors do not heat up so exponentially, but it would involve a very expensive system of encasing a suppressor inside a larger sleeve of exacting metallurgy, with a vacuum pocket in between. As long as the thermal properties of expansion for the metals used for manufacture were the same, it should expand and contact at the same rate, without breaching the vacuum chamber. Due to the vacuum in existence, less heat transfer happens to the outer casing.

Common Solution:

1. Suppressor heat safety. (Don't put your hot suppressor on anything you do not want to destroy. Battle buddy vicinity, flammables ext.)

2. Covers, just keep in mind what situation you intend to use them for. Also, what situations may happen while they are on. (Thermal signature, Odor, ext)
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Old 02-25-2016, 09:11   #15
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While looking around, I found a couple youtube videos.

For a cover in the 35USD range, these are viable, if only to keep from blistering fingers & legs..

Spray-n-Pray in not advisable, but it shows what you can expect..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tJ7heDIqXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrwQAxgP6mI
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