California, setting the bar, pure socialism at work

[Team Sergeant]

Pure socialism at work, make the future voters even more stupid.

I would not hire a single worker from California after this.





California Laws: On January 1st, Students Won’t Have to Pass High School to Receive Diploma
by William Bigelow27 Dec 2015

On January 1, California residents will have to accustom themselves to a number of new laws that will be implemented in the state. These are some the laws that will likely have the most profound effect:

SB 172: High school seniors will receive their diploma whether or not they pass or even take an exit exam; the law also applies retroactively to students who have graduated since 2004;


Cont:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...chool-diploma/

[Sohei]

That's nice...now the "dumbing-down" of America can be official and people can show they are officially willingly ignorant.

[Team Sergeant]

"Hi, I'm from California and I identify as a high school graduate."

[BlueYing]

I'm not surprised in the least. I wouldn't even be surprised if it came out of my state, Indiana.

I spoke with a teacher not long ago about some of the things going on in school systems around where I live. He mentioned the fact that they can only hold students back once in their entire academic career. It doesn't matter how badly they need to be held back. If the student was held back once before for any reason then the student must go on. Some students have figured it out and aren't doing a thing in class. He said one student in particular has less than 10% in his class with an obvious grade of an F, and he will go on to graduate at some point.

Another thing is if a student is on an IDP, individual development plan, then the student can't be touched. The example he gave is if that student gets in a fist fight in the cafeteria, he will not get into any trouble. I said to him, hypothetically, in five years when that student "graduates" and is in the real world, he gets into a fist fight at the local bar or whatnot, he's not going to understand why he has to go to jail, or rather face punishment for any of his wrong doing. The teacher said, that's pretty much what I brought up.

The school systems are failing the kids on a massive scale. Things have changed in the few short years (okay almost 20 years) since I graduated. And I didn't even think high school prepared me for much of anything back then. I'm afraid of what it's going to look like in the next couple of decades.

[PedOncoDoc]

Idiocracy is getting more and more prophetic with each passing day...

[PSM]

The rest of the states in the Union had better institute laws requiring new residents to reside in the state for AT LEAST 5 years before being able to vote in local and state elections. There will soon be swarms of California Locust infesting the nation.

Our very liberal neighbors, when we lived in CA, recently moved to Idaho.

Pat

[Streck-Fu]

Federal funding is the cause. It is tied to the perception of performance. State and local education has to get off the federal teet before meaningful changes can occur.

[=one=]

The Breitbart headline is pretty sensationalistic. SB172 suspends a law enacted in 2003 that introduced the "exit exam" requirement for high school graduation. In my day we got "credits" for passing each class, similar to "units" in college. Assuming we passed all the required classes and competency tests, once we acquired enough credits we were allowed to graduate. SB172 is basically bringing back the old ways.

I'm more interested in the other laws going hot on the first.

[Sdiver]

While the original post is indeed the "Dumbing Down of America" and is something I'd expect from the sunshine state (Dude), these two new laws jumped out at me ...

SB 707: Bans concealed firearms from college campuses and K-12 school grounds;

and

AB 1014: Will permit family members to obtain a restraining order to keep relatives who might commit gun violence from owning a gun;

When is that major earthquake, that'll make California fall into the sea, supposed to strike again?
Wish it would hurry the hell up already.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

the sunshine state (Dude),

Golden State. Florida is the Sunshine State.

Pat

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by =one=

The Breitbart headline is pretty sensationalistic. SB172 suspends a law enacted in 2003 that introduced the "exit exam" requirement for high school graduation. In my day we got "credits" for passing each class, similar to "units" in college. Assuming we passed all the required classes and competency tests, once we acquired enough credits we were allowed to graduate. SB172 is basically bringing back the old ways.

Are they experiencing an issue with high school students passing classes but failing the exit exam?

[=one=]

There are some students who wouldn't have passed otherwise. One example given was a high school in Richmond where 37 kids got a pass. To me that would indicate more of a knowledge retention or even a cheating problem.

Some are claiming the two main reasons for suspending the old law are 1) it doesn't gel with Common Core, and 2) the contract with the testing agency is expired. Supposedly, getting a new contract would cost millions of dollars and time to negotiate. The timing could cause every senior this year to fail since they wouldn't be able to get tested.

[Richard]

Baloney.

SB172 merely "suspends" the requirement to pass the current Exit Exam (which only tests English amd Math proficiency) for 3 years while the state ed board seeks to (1) expand the exam to test for other subjects as well and (2) offer alternatives to acquiring a high school equivalent diploma as other states do.

During this period, diplomas will be issued - as was done when I graduated from high school before any sort of such exit exam - to those who successfully pass their high school coursework IAW the existent recommended curriculum.

Diplomas will not be awarded to those who fail to pass their coursework and fail to earn the necessary credits to graduate.

For anybody who is actually involved in or follows such matters, this is but another 'meh' situation being misrepresented with typically poor research and alarmist reporting.

Richard

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Pure socialism at work, make the future voters even more stupid.

I would not hire a single worker from California after this.
The headline is wholly misleading.

California Laws: On January 1st, Students Won’t Have to Pass High School to Receive Diploma
by William Bigelow27 Dec 2015

On January 1, California residents will have to accustom themselves to a number of new laws that will be implemented in the state. These are some the laws that will likely have the most profound effect:

SB 172: High school seniors will receive their diploma whether or not they pass or even take an exit exam; the law also applies retroactively to students who have graduated since 2004;

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Richard

Diplomas will not be awarded to those who fail to pass their coursework and fail to earn the necessary credits to graduate.

Whew!

[Mills]

Originally Posted by PSM

The rest of the states in the Union had better institute laws requiring new residents to reside in the state for AT LEAST 5 years before being able to vote in local and state elections. There will soon be swarms of California Locust infesting the nation.

Our very liberal neighbors, when we lived in CA, recently moved to Idaho.

Pat

Same thing is happening all over the country.

"Hey, lets make all of these great rules and change the economic structure of our community to make it more Utopian"

Two years later...........

"We can't afford to live here anymore, or it has become overrun with leaches on the system............so lets move somewhere else and make things the way we want them...........Only this time.........It will stick!"