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Old 01-01-2005, 07:24   #1
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Arizona Boy Scouts Aid Bag

A friend of mine (The Chief of Surgery at Doc T's hospital) has asked if we could advise on a medical kit for a Boy Scout troop leader here in Arizona.

I would imagine that it would be a basic kit as the bearer would not possess a medical background. With that said, is there a good book on first aid to place in the kit?

I need a pack and a contents list. Im sure some of the aid bags weve discussed would work fine.

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Old 01-01-2005, 08:36   #2
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http://www.tacticaltailor.com/produc...responder_bag/

As for packing list:
http://www.chinookmed.com/detail.php...&limit_start=5
http://www.chinookmed.com/detail.php...limit_start=10
http://www.chinookmed.com/detail.php...&limit_start=0

I recently made some custom kits. Thier contens was a lot like the above modules.
I also added a pocketmask, gloves, Petzl Zippka, Paramedioc sissor and a pocket refrence guide from WMI/Nols printet on a red fabric.

If there is ALS providers i suggest that they add ALS supplies in a separate bag. I also dont included any Feel good meds.
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Old 01-04-2005, 08:17   #3
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Thanks SG.

Is this it?

All you medics/PA's/MD's sleeping???

TS

(Sure, just wait till you guys need to know how to rip off one's head and shit down their lungs, then you'll be asking my advice....)
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Old 01-04-2005, 08:59   #4
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In addition to what SG put up there

1. Bee sting kits
2. Eye kits with wash
3. Benedryl and calamine for poison oivy etc
4. Some pliers for pulling splinters, etc.
5. Lots and lots of bandaids
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Old 01-04-2005, 09:43   #5
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From a Boy Scouts website:

Bar of soap
2-inch roller bandage
1-inch roller bandage
1-inch adhesive
3-by-3-inch sterile pads
Triangular bandage
Assorted gauze pads
Adhesive strips
Clinical oral thermometer
Scissors
Tweezers
Sunburn lotion
Lip salve
Poison-ivy lotion
Small flashlight (with extra batteries and bulb)
Absorbent cotton
Water purification tablets (iodine)
Safety pins
Needles
Paper cups
Foot powder
Instant ice packs


-add that to NDD's list

then add Saca's off the top of his head list:
  • empty 10cc monoject curved plastic tip syringe- for irrigating wounds, flushing eyes, etc.
  • Antidiarrheal meds
  • moleskin or some other blister treatment kit
  • tylenol or Ibu 200
  • triple AB ointment
  • small quantity of orthodontic wax or similar to cover a broken or chipped tooth
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Old 01-04-2005, 13:29   #6
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for the reference books you asked about...
Old 01-04-2005, 13:51   #7
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for the reference books you asked about...

I do not have personal experience with this product, but it looks like a great idea. Written for the laymen... flash card style treatment synopsis on laminated/tear proof paper.
I followed the links and it looks like the cards alone are $28.
http://www.wildernessmedical.com/flashcards.htm

Anyone have any knowledge of this product to help the Team Sergeant out on whether its worthwhile? If so, chime in.

Will keep looking for better info Team Sergeant.... its a slow day at the office.

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Old 01-05-2005, 07:39   #8
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In addition to what SG put up there

1. Bee sting kits
2. Eye kits with wash
3. Benedryl and calamine for poison oivy etc
4. Some pliers for pulling splinters, etc.
5. Lots and lots of bandaids

We have those nasty little killer bees here.

Also rattle snakes.

Heat kills more people in AZ than anywhere in the United States.

I'll get this put together and let you guys view the list.

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Old 01-05-2005, 12:45   #9
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TS,
When I was a boy scout not all that long ago...
We had a bunch of the older scouts who were EMT's (two of the assistant scoutmasters were firefighter/paramedics) and pretty experienced first aid/first responders. Might be worthwhile to talk to the guy firsthand and see what he's comfortable with.

I know a troop I later transfered to had no one who would have been able to use more than a band-aid.

I'm sure you knew this stuff but It's always nice to see the boy scouts get good help since it was such a positive part of my upbringing.
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Old 01-11-2005, 14:46   #10
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Heat kills more people in AZ than anywhere in the United States.
not a medic, but what do you guys think about oral rehydration therapy for heat exhaustion or heat stroke (eg. packing salt and sugar to mix with water)?
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:48   #11
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not a medic, but what do you guys think about oral rehydration therapy for heat exhaustion or heat stroke (eg. packing salt and sugar to mix with water)?

why not just carry a packet of gatorade powder, or a bottle of pedialyte?
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You can buy commercially-prepared ORS at many outdoor retailers (i.e. REI) if that's what you want.
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TS,
Did you get the info you need or are you still waiting for more input?
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Old 01-12-2005, 16:20   #14
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TS,
Did you get the info you need or are you still waiting for more input?
Like I said this is a request from the Chief of Surgery wondering what we as SF'ers would recommend to the BS.

I'll take any and all input and build a package based on our input. One thing I would add is a signal mirror to signal the Dustoff chopper with. It's not a survival piece of gear out here in AZ, it's a must to get someone's attention, especially if someone's injured.

Razor, what's an ORS package?
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Like I said this is a request from the Chief of Surgery wondering what we as SF'ers would recommend to the BS.

I'll take any and all input and build a package based on our input. One thing I would add is a signal mirror to signal the Dustoff chopper with. It's not a survival piece of gear out here in AZ, it's a must to get someone's attention, especially if someone's injured.

Razor, what's an ORS package?
Oral Rehydration Salts. Put in water for rehydration. More salt and less sugar than gatorade.
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