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Old 10-29-2015, 17:07   #1
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World Health Organization (WHO) Gone Full Retard

If I were a wealthy cattle, lamb or pork rancher I's sue the morons in the World Health Organization for every penny they have........ Idiots.

On the bright side maybe the beef prices will fall a little....

Chef Michael Symon is my hero!




Meat-lover Michael Symon blasts WHO meat study
Published October 29, 2015
·FoxNews.com

Earlier this week, meat lovers everywhere bemoaned the results of a new study released by the World Health Organization that declared processed meats such as sausages, bacon, and ham to be carcinogenic to humans-- lumping the beloved proteins into the same category as cigarettes and asbestos.

But the news for carnivores got worse. WHO research also labeled red meats like non-cured pork, beef, and lamb as "probably carcinogenic.”

Amid the outcry from meat producers and lovers everywhere was a particularly long Facebook post from carnivore-centric celebrity chef Michael Symon. Symon, best known as a co-star of ABC's "The Chew", who penned a cookbook “Carnivore: 120 Recipes for Meat Lovers," called the study a "witch hunt" and a "disservice" for lumping in mass produced meat with “crafted artisan products.”

“To say I am disappointed in your witch hunt..errr "research" would be to put it mildly a understatement,” the Food Network star posted. “First off why wouldn't you take this opportunity to talk about the huge division of meat and meat products that are out there. To group factory farmed, mass produced products loaded with hormones, words we can't pronounce and man made nitrates with beautifully raised, produced & crafted artisan products is an incredible disservice to those who work so hard to do things the right way.”




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Dear World Health Organization,
To say I am disappointed in your witch hunt..errr "research" would be to put it mildly a understatement. First off why wouldn't you take this opportunity to talk about the huge division of meat and meat products that are out there. To group factory farmed, mass produced products loaded with hormones, words we can't pronounce and man made nitrates with beautifully raised, produced & crafted artisan products is an incredible disservice to those who work so hard to do things the right way.
Also the media using this research as "click on my page" gimmick with headlines such as "Bacon & Beef Kills!" just makes it an even larger problem. Lets talk about a couple facts here. You never mentioned anything about anyone that was tested diet or if they are rich in fiber and balanced with grains & vegetables. Also when digging deeper in the article it mentions that a diet filled these so called deadly products effects less than 1% of people or 30,000 people WORLDWIDE ANNUALLY. To put that in perspective deaths caused by car accidents and smoking where 1.3 million and 900,000 last year.
I would hope most people understand by now life is about balance and if you ate pounds of bacon, beef and hot dogs daily that it would be bad for you. To categorize the danger of eating bacon, salami & beef in the same breath as cigarettes is a complete joke ....as is your blanket statement research.
On a happier note my 97 year grandfather called me today laughing about the article while enjoying a BLT from his couch.

Eat Real Food,
Michael Symon





He also blasted media organizations for using gimmicky, click bait headlines for exacerbating the problem.

“Also when digging deeper in the article it mentions that a diet filled these so called deadly products effects less than 1% of people or 30,000 people WORLDWIDE ANNUALLY. To put that in perspective deaths caused by car accidents and smoking where 1.3 million and 900,000 last year.”

Symon caps off his rant-- which has received over 45,000 likes-- with a personal anecdote about an elderly relative who clearly wasn’t phased by the research.

“On a happier note my 97 year grandfather called me today laughing about the article while enjoying a BLT from his couch.”


http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/...tcmp=obnetwork
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Old 10-29-2015, 17:36   #2
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Then there's this: World's oldest person eats bacon every day so suck it, World Health Organization.

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Susannah Mushatt Jones was officially declared the oldest person in the world earlier this year, winning a difficult competition that depends on staying alive while other people die. She's six years away from beating the world record previously set by Jeanne Calment, who died at the age of 122 years and 164 days. At the tender age of 116, Mushatt Jones lives a good life in Brooklyn, with a positive attitude and comforting routine. Her day begins with eggs, grits, and four strips of bacon, which comes as a surprise after the World Health Organization's boner killer about bacon yesterday.

Yesterday, the WHO (who?) announced the devastating news that bacon and other delicious processed meats cause cancer, but perhaps Mushatt Jones has a special immunity. Still kicking it at 116, she understands that bacon is one of the only things worth living more than a century for.

http://www.someecards.com/life/healt...-person-bacon/


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Old 10-29-2015, 17:48   #3
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" Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"
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Old 10-29-2015, 20:57   #4
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Chief of Staff, she thinks Michael Symon rocks.
I'd have to concur.

Been hearing these kinds of retarded pronouncements, off/on, for decades - although bacon gets roped in pretty regularly, which rises to felony-stupid when they don't understand the building blocks of the universe. When I was growing up (sans internet) everything was going to kill me. Bacon, peanut butter, albacore or halibut I caught, you name it. An uncle (who was a medic on Omaha Beach) told me we're dyin' from the day we're born, so live. I'm still here.
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Old 10-29-2015, 22:43   #5
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What happened to the WHO we knew and loved? The Live at Leeds and Tommy WHO.
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Old 10-29-2015, 23:21   #6
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What happened to the WHO we knew and loved? The Live at Leeds and Tommy WHO.
Well, there's this:

The Who Sell Out

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Well, there's this:

The Who Sell Out

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Old 10-30-2015, 11:55   #8
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Moderating consumption of preserved meat to reduce the risk of certain types of cancer has been a nutrition and chronic disease prevention guideline since 2002.

The latest science and IARC review are only confirming the guideline.


The anti-science battle rages on.
I take it you actually read this part of the WHO's statement:

WHO research also labeled red meats like non-cured pork, beef, and lamb as "probably carcinogenic.”


Please tell us of the "science" behind this statement by WHO?

Not "anti-science", anti-stupid or anti-moronic is more like it.
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:48   #9
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I was listening to some research physicians discuss this and their consensus was that moderation, as with most things, was an important factor inre to this 'theory' (at this point), and that even if you regularly ate such meat products the levels of increased risk would likely amount to around 1%.

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From the 26OCT2015 IARC press release:

"After thoroughly reviewing the accumulated scientific literature, a Working Group of 22 experts from 10 countries convened by the IARC Monographs Programme classified the consumption of red meat as probably carcinogenic to humans (Group 2A), based on limited evidence that the consumption of red meat causes cancer in humans and strong mechanistic evidence supporting a carcinogenic effect.

This association was observed mainly for colorectal cancer, but associations were also seen for pancreatic cancer and prostate cancer."


Also, "non-cured" meat is still a preserved type.
I didn't realize that "probably" was scientific speak. Please expound on the facts behind "probably" causes cancer.

Your quoting that paragraph does nothing to further your defense of "anti-science".


And non-cured meat is preserved with? Please do tell. (I know how it's done do you? And it's the same process man has been using for 10,000 years, no chemicals involved.)

Let me tell you a secret, it's not the red meat that's the culprit it's the cooking method used, and again, it's the same one that been employed for 10,000 thousand years.
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Cancer

People should know that lifetime risk for developing cancer is roughly %40. About half will die from it. The older you live to be the higher the risk. I don't know what it feels like to be a vegan/vegetarian etc. but those diets are low in several key nutrients, such as vitamin D that they have to be sourced from animal products anyway.
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I don't know what it feels like to be a vegan/vegetarian etc. but those diets are low in several key nutrients, such as vitamin D that they have to be sourced from animal products anyway.
Well, the WHO just released this report ....

http://theunaustralian.net/2015/10/2...-to-arrogance/

Do you really wanna find out?
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You've pointed out colorectal cancer here's a study by a team from Oxford....... I'm just guessing here but why wasn't the WHO aware of this study? Didn't they get the memo?

Cancer is not that far apart between vegetarians and nonvegetarians. And check out that last sentence......

I'll have my ribeye rare please.




Cancer risk in vegetarians
Key TJ, Appleby PN, Spencer EA, Travis RC, Roddam AW, Allen NE
Cancer Incidence in Vegetarians: results from the European Prospective Inverstigation into Cancer and Nutrition. Am J Clin Nutr. 2009; 89(5)1620S-1626S.
BACKGROUND: Few prospective studies have examined cancer incidence among vegetarians. OBJECTIVE: We report cancer incidence among vegetarians and nonvegetarians in the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition-Oxford (EPIC-Oxford) study. DESIGN: This was a prospective study of 63,550 men and women recruited throughout the United Kingdom in the 1990s. Cancer incidence was followed through nationwide cancer registries. RESULTS: The standardized incidence ratio for all malignant neoplasms for all participants was 72% (95% CI: 69%, 75%). The standardized incidence ratios for colorectal cancer were 84% (95% CI: 73%, 95%) among nonvegetarians and 102% (95% CI: 80%, 129%) among vegetarians. Comparing vegetarians with meat eaters and adjusting for age, sex, and smoking, the incidence rate ratio for all malignant neoplasms was 0.89 (95% CI: 0.80, 1.00). The incidence rate ratio for colorectal cancer in vegetarians compared with meat eaters was 1.39 (95% CI: 1.01, 1.91). CONCLUSIONS: The overall cancer incidence rates of both the vegetarians and the nonvegetarians in this study are low compared with national rates. Within the study, the incidence of all cancers combined was lower among vegetarians than among meat eaters, but the incidence of colorectal cancer was higher in vegetarians than in meat eaters.

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People should know that lifetime risk for developing cancer is roughly %40. About half will die from it. The older you live to be the higher the risk. I don't know what it feels like to be a vegan/vegetarian etc. but those diets are low in several key nutrients, such as vitamin D that they have to be sourced from animal products anyway.
I'm going to go out on a limb here, but, isn't "the longer or older you live" the probability of death also goes up?
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I'm goin' over to Whoville for Christmas; at least they serve Roast Beast, apparently good enough to be worthy of stealing by the Grinch. I'll stand watch over it this year.
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