07-14-2015, 21:06
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John Kerry/Iran Deal
Anybody want to bet John Kerry gets the Nobel Peace Prize for this disaster?
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07-15-2015, 03:52
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It would have been interesting to see the vote turn out back in 2012 if Obama's campaign mentioned he wanted a nuclear backed Iran. He probably did at some point but his drone supporters & media could have cared less.
I still don't get what the US has to gain from this and why it's being done.
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07-15-2015, 05:03
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Originally Posted by mark46th
Anybody want to bet John Kerry gets the Nobel Peace Prize for this disaster?
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I will not throw the bones with you. Such contemplation is obviously way "too nuanced" for this simple peasant.
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07-15-2015, 06:13
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Deal announced on Jade Helm eve.
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07-15-2015, 10:08
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Originally Posted by mark46th
Anybody want to bet John Kerry gets the Nobel Peace Prize for this disaster?
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..I'm sure that barry will find a way to get him the so well deserved CMH as well as all other awards the US can possibly give and at the very least nominate him for any and all awards the UN can give.
I'd put this in pink but I just can't ..I know I know ..tin foil too tight
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07-15-2015, 10:52
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07-15-2015, 11:26
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I still don't get what the US has to gain from this and why it's being done. 
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As with most things it's about the money!
The best explanation that I have heard is that the international sanctions coalition was falling apart. International bankers were losing (not making) money because of the embargos. There is just so long that they will tolerate that and we may have seen their patience waning.
If that was the case, the only option left would be to strike a deal that slow rolls the Iranian nuclear program rather than let the sanction coalition fall apart of its own accord. Something is better than nothing.
The fact that Iran's ability to re-enter the arms trade arena was put into the agreement at the last minute suggests to me that this explanation is correct.
After all Germany and France have to make up the $96 Billion that went to Greece from somewhere don't they.
In the end it's always about the money now isn't it.
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07-15-2015, 11:27
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Anybody want to bet John Kerry gets the Nobel Peace Prize for this disaster?
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Maybe he will throw it over the White House fence like he did with the other ones he never really earned.
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07-15-2015, 11:31
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News Conference on Iran...and then...
The big O is right now delivering a press conference on the Iran Deal...and then...is coming to a very small town here in Oklahoma, which sits on the Red River border to Texas.....hmmmm.
http://www.newson6.com/story/2955216...t-on-wednesday
President Obama To Visit Durant On Wednesday
Posted: Jul 15, 2015 7:36 AM CDT Updated: Jul 15, 2015 9:03 AM CDT
DURANT, Oklahoma -
President Barack Obama will travel to Durant, Oklahoma, Wednesday afternoon to visit the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma, and to talk about expanding economic opportunity.
President Obama will arrive at North Texas Regional Airport at about 4:20 p.m. He will then travel to Durant High School to deliver remarks on expanding economic opportunity for communities across the country, including the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma, White House officials said.
The Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma is headquartered in Durant. The Tribe serves as the overall governmental hub for state and federal services to all of that region’s residents. The Choctaw Nation serves 11 rural counties (11,734 square miles) within its tribal territory. This is the second largest tribal service area in the lower 48 states, and the largest "Promise Zone" area.
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07-16-2015, 06:11
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President Barack Obama will travel to Durant, Oklahoma, Wednesday afternoon to visit the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma, and to talk about expanding economic opportunity.
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If the Choctaw Nation was smart and really wanted economic opportunity, they would embark on a nuclear program and the appeasers would send trainloads of cash.
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07-16-2015, 06:44
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And he is visiting a prison......to bad they will probably let him leave.
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07-16-2015, 06:54
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So Obama states that this can only be dealt with politically or by war. He won't go to war so the American public will suffer by his ineptness which he will blame on everyone else.
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07-16-2015, 07:56
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Anybody wanna buy a used treaty from these guys?
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...n-nuclear-deal
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...al-120080.html
Kaplan's interesting pol-mil perception.
What worries these critics most is not that Iran might enrich its uranium into an A-bomb. (If that were the case, why would they so virulently oppose a deal that put off this prospect by more than a decade?) No, what worries them much more deeply is that Iran might rejoin the community of nations, possibly even as a diplomatic (and eventually trading) partner of the United States and Europe.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...deal_they.html
And so it goes...
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07-16-2015, 19:12
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If the region was going to race for the Bomb they would have started the process 20 months ago when the interim deal was signed.
Iran has the largest biotechnical/tech industry in the middle east next to Israel. Why would Israel/UAE/Saudi want to allow a regional power back into the global market when it would detract from their shares?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...tech-industry/
(Ignore the overly pro-Iranian tone)
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07-17-2015, 09:09
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Pretty interesting interview with Benjamin Netanyahu.
http://video.lauraingraham.com/Netan...ampaign=buffer
Americans just don't understand what an existential threat is. Israelis wake up with it everyday.
I worry that, by the time D.C. again determines that Iran is an enemy nation, our nation will be too soft to do anything about it. Israel would be a damned country of fools to trust Obama.
Gog and Magog.
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