06-24-2015, 04:02
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Staying Calm Under Stress
Hello all, this is a question for mostly QP's, but anyone is welcome to answer. SF guys are reputed for staying calm under stress, you guys are known to produce higher levels of Neuropeptide Y under pressure. The question(s) are:
-How do you keep calm under stress?
-Do you keep calm under all kinds of stress? E.g. arguing with wife, adjusting to civilian life, vs being in combat
-Where and/or when did you develop such a quality? Before or after training?
-Are you normally a calm person? Have you ever lashed out or lost your cool, became worried, nervous or angry, EVER? lol
Thanks!
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06-24-2015, 06:39
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I would say it's an attribute that's developed over a long period of time and experience. The things that used to cause stress when you're younger don't bother you as you get older. Good judgment comes from experience...and a lot of experience comes from bad judgment.
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06-24-2015, 07:01
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^^^^^ Everything 1stindoor stated.
...and maintaining a keen focus on the objective while assessing, assimilating/rejecting incoming and outgoing stimuli.
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06-24-2015, 08:25
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Agreed with what has been stated,,
Besides being a self learned and self refined personal reflex,
being CALM is somewhat genetic. (not to be conflated as clam, :])
Genetic as in the nature of the individual,
not as a inherited DNA trait.
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06-24-2015, 10:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murican
Hello all, this is a question for mostly QP's, but anyone is welcome to answer. SF guys are reputed for staying calm under stress, you guys are known to produce higher levels of Neuropeptide Y under pressure. The question(s) are:
-How do you keep calm under stress?
-Do you keep calm under all kinds of stress? E.g. arguing with wife, adjusting to civilian life, vs being in combat
-Where and/or when did you develop such a quality? Before or after training?
-Are you normally a calm person? Have you ever lashed out or lost your cool, became worried, nervous or angry, EVER? lol
Thanks!
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And why it was moved to "General Discussions".
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06-24-2015, 10:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
Agreed with what has been stated,,
Besides being a self learned and self refined personal reflex,
being CLAM is somewhat genetic.
Genetic as in the nature of the individual,
not as a inherited DNA trait.
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I don't think anyone was talking about being a "CLAM". 
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06-24-2015, 11:25
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07-08-2015, 04:54
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Calming Nerves
Recently, as a flight attendant, I responded to a situation involving an unconscious little girl. I took charge of the situation and allowed my training to kick in. I did about everything I was supposed to do and the little girl was in stable condition. But during the ordeal, my heart was beating fast and I was shaking, it was a mixture of excitement and fear, and my attempt to suppress them.
My coworkers told me I sounded calm over the intercom, but I couldn't help but being embarrassed, wondering if I let my nervousness show.
My question is, during your first "situation" combat related or not, were you nervous? Does it get better with experience?
What are your tips to calm my adrenaline next time so I don't shake while trying to do my job?
Thanks for your answers.
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07-08-2015, 06:49
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Nervous, no. Adrenaline, abundantly. With a very increased awareness.
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07-08-2015, 07:19
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Could nervousness be just how you mentally frame and acknowledge it? If I welcomed my symptoms (heart rate, shakiness, heightened alertness) then it felt like excitement, yet if I pushed it away then it becomes fear. I want to assume you experienced the same physical symptoms as I did.
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07-08-2015, 08:58
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Training and mindset.
I suggest you read the mindset thread, it may be long but well worth the read.
Masters of Chaos
http://www.amazon.com/Masters-Chaos-.../dp/1586483528
Purchase it.
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07-08-2015, 09:46
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When the poop hits the fan, things seem to slow down for me. I attribute that to the fact that my mind is racing, processing huge amounts of information and comparing it with training and experience to gauge reaction. In many ways it contributes to the level of 'awareness' and subsequent response mentioned above ....
Thus, when everything has 'slowed down' around you and you react, it seems not only 'calm and ordered' to you, but also to those around you.
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07-08-2015, 09:57
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Adderall. Keeps you focused. Just can't be in the Army or need a security clearance. 
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07-08-2015, 11:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1stindoor
I would say it's an attribute that's developed over a long period of time and experience. The things that used to cause stress when you're younger don't bother you as you get older. Good judgment comes from experience...and a lot of experience comes from bad judgment.
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I concur
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07-08-2015, 17:43
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The more realistic the training the more it seems like training when it happens.
For medical training you want fake blood squirting in your face and loud sounds going off around you trying to distract you.
For shooting, nothing like a shoot house with real door charges and live ammo to get the blood pumping with a simple scenario that keeps getting changed every few minutes to keep you thinking, the odds getting worse as you go or your time on obj keeps getting cut. The Mogidishu Mile type training is good as you just are exhausted the whole time and have to keep moving. No stopping, no time outs, lots of wounded to carry, a million angles, and the bad guys are every where!
Through all of this you must be physically fit as well as mentally prepared. Peak physical condition keeps your heart rate controllable once that initial rush happens. The fight or flight reaction can be controlled. When the real thing happens you almost think it's boring in comparison...almost! Nothing like bullets flying back at you to get that pucker factor increased by A thousand!!!
But even that gets familiar when it's happened enough times. The more often it happens the more accustomed you are to it. If you are getting shot at once a week you get batter at it than if it only happens once a month or once a deployment.same with wounds. The more you see the easier it is to deal with the next one.
I know these examples relate to combat, but the same principles apply to roller coasters and sky diving, or being in an ER or an inflight emergency.
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