06-05-2015, 09:21
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Pretense and food, funny article
A friend sent this to me some time ago, I thought I share.
So I'm sitting on the train reading the most recent New Yorker which is all about food and come across an article titled 'shut up and eat'. It provides a thoughtful discussion and opinion on our conversation about why the topic of food has become such a crazy obsession. If you do anything in the next 4 hours this must be one of the things. Short, funny and to the point.
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Imagine that you die and go to Heaven and stand in front of a jury made up of Thomas Jefferson, Eleanor Roosevelt, and Martin Luther King, Jr. Your task would be to compose yourself, look them in the eye, and say, “I was all about fresh, local, and seasonal.”
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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/03/shut-eat
Have a lovely evening and many thanks for the unforgettable lunch!!
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06-05-2015, 09:37
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I know this will probably piss-off TS and Penn but I think "presentation" at it's current level is way over the top. The only exception I would give would be to the Chinese and Japanese chefs because their's is more artistry. A few dots of rapberry jelly with a line of mint jelly and a ruffle cut tomato pales in comparison to the work of Asian chefs.
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06-05-2015, 13:10
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I know this will probably piss-off TS and Penn but I think "presentation" at it's current level is way over the top. The only exception I would give would be to the Chinese and Japanese chefs because their's is more artistry. A few dots of rapberry jelly with a line of mint jelly and a ruffle cut tomato pales in comparison to the work of Asian chefs.
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No soup for you!
Actually, I agree as well.
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06-05-2015, 14:15
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I know this will probably piss-off TS and Penn but I think "presentation" at it's current level is way over the top. The only exception I would give would be to the Chinese and Japanese chefs because their's is more artistry. A few dots of rapberry jelly with a line of mint jelly and a ruffle cut tomato pales in comparison to the work of Asian chefs.
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No I agree with you, plain and simple is always good. Besides taste is where most folks draw the line, they could give a crap about how it looks.....
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06-05-2015, 14:51
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good tasting is what I go for.... but I don't go for "Chow Hall" presentation either.
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06-05-2015, 22:10
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good tasting is what I go for.... but I don't go for "Chow Hall" presentation either.
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Aww - come on! SOS with three eggs over easy on top splashed with Tabasco and a side of hash browns? Add a cup of coffee and that's a masterpiece.
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06-06-2015, 04:21
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Aww - come on! SOS with three eggs over easy on top splashed with Tabasco and a side of hash browns? Add a cup of coffee and that's a masterpiece.
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Brother, I always got one huge pile of glop that was everything you asked for, and some you didn't, with burnt toast thrown on top. 
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06-06-2015, 05:29
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Wow! How did you score burnt toast?
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06-06-2015, 08:58
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I agree to a point, with one exception, which is important to you as well when dining out. There is an expectation with regard to a professional level of execution. You have expectation and want them meet, relative to the establishment, price point, and service.
There is nothing better then sitting in a dockside lobster shack in Maine, eating just caught and cooked lobster with your hands. It's all together another experience sitting in a steakhouse, or a fine dining restaurant. Context is important.
One more thing, I disagree with the artistry statement, as design is culture specific. http://www.bocusedor.com/en check out the pictures and displays. Tom Keller placed second.
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06-06-2015, 09:28
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Damn!
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One more thing, I disagree with the artistry statement, as design is culture specific. http://www.bocusedor.com/en check out the pictures and displays. Tom Keller placed second. |
Is that stuff edible?
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06-06-2015, 11:54
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Food is to be eaten not stared at. There's your Thanksgiving plate full of turkey, mashed potatoes, three types of vegetables, sweet potatoes, cranberry sauce, and here comes your mother's delicious ham, but your plate is packed full, so you put it on top as presentation be damned you're going to dig into this meal. 
I'm trying to picture a well presented modern day plate put before some Vikings. 
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06-06-2015, 16:08
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I'm trying to picture a well presented modern day plate put before some Vikings. |
That would be called Rome...
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06-06-2015, 18:49
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I'm trying to picture a well presented modern day plate put before some Vikings. |
Easy, I have some Viking blood.....  And my dogs, Loki and Balder have always enjoyed my cooking...... 
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06-06-2015, 19:34
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Easy, I have some Viking blood..... And my dogs, Loki and Balder have always enjoyed my cooking...... |
Please tell me you just plopped into their dishes and did not "arrange" it!
Best "finger food" meal for me is steak, chicken, and shrimp fajitas cooked over mesquite. No rice and beans.
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06-07-2015, 06:55
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Please tell me you just plopped into their dishes and did not "arrange" it! |
This has me, cracking-the-fuck-up!
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