12-22-2004, 13:37
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McCain
I think he's going to run as a Dem or Hillary's VP.
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12-22-2004, 13:54
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I think he's going to run as a Dem or Hillary's VP.
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He you read or heard something lately that would cause you to come to that conclusion or are you just making an educated guess based off his prior history? Personally, while I respect the man for his service I have begun to believe that he thinks he is bigger than his party and really seems to enjoy his maverick super star role. IMHO joing the Dems wouldn't get him anything more than he probably have during the next election cycle.
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12-22-2004, 14:15
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I think he's going to run as a Dem or Hillary's VP.
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H. Ross Perot, Jimmy Carter, and John McCain...What do they all have in common?
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12-22-2004, 14:23
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Navy?
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12-22-2004, 14:27
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Real close, Sneaky.
Annapolis grads.
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12-22-2004, 14:40
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And I didn't even look it up. LOL
There are little things. Look at what happened when Arnold called for a move to the left.
Who will the GOP run? No way in hell McCain gets it over Rudy if Rudy runs.
I think he knows there will be a visceral reaction to Hillary and who else have they got?
I think he knew what he was doing when he pushed Hillary into the SOWF speech and will "open" more doors for her on the military side, probably hoping she will fail.
Going after the SECDEF is a calculated risk for a Republican, no risk for a Dem.
I think McCain might still be a little pissed that President Bush got it in 2000.
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12-22-2004, 14:47
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Who will the GOP run? No way in hell McCain gets it over Rudy if Rudy runs.
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I can't see Rudy getting the nod. I don't think the GOP will ever nominate a Pro-abortion pro-gay marriage candidate.
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12-22-2004, 14:54
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I can't see Rudy getting the nod. I don't think the GOP will ever nominate a Pro-abortion pro-gay marriage candidate.
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Then who?
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12-22-2004, 15:05
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That's a good question. '08 is a long way off so it is hard to guess. Gov Romney of Mass would be a good choice expect he is a Mormon and there are some out there on the right that don't hold mormons in high regard. Bill Frist is positioning himself but Senators don't make good Presidential candidates. Gov Pitaki is a soup sandwich who probably won't even win election. McCain has pissed to many on the right off and so has Chuck Hagel. Little Bush has the name and the creds but after 12 years of Dad and big brother there might be a fatigue factor. Rick Santorum has expressed interest but is too far to the right to interest independents. George Allen has a face made for radio. My guess is that it will be a Rep Governor that not to many have on their radar right now.
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12-22-2004, 16:04
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US Representative John Boehner
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12-22-2004, 16:49
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or US Senator George Voinovich.
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12-22-2004, 17:18
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12-22-2004, 17:20
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I can't see Rudy getting the nod. I don't think the GOP will ever nominate a Pro-abortion pro-gay marriage candidate.
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If Rudy gets the nod, what Dem could beat him? I don't think any Dems would stand a snowball's chance in Hell against him. He would get the vast majority of independant votes, and all the conservatives would vote against the liberal candidate (if not for Rudy). To me, he seems like a really good backup candidate in case the GOP has a hard time finding someone that could further their agenda AND be a popular candidate.
Rudy just seems like a nearly fail-safe candidate that is 90% with the GOP agenda. Good enough for me.
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12-22-2004, 17:29
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I don't know Allen.
Ridge? Come on
Rudy is as socially liberal as Arnold. But he is known. They will use Kerok against him big time.
Pataki is unknown outside of NY, everybody thinks Rudy is both Mayor and Governor
They will not elect another Bush, especially back to back
Coiln Powell is a possibility, although I think there is still enough racism to prevent it
Tommy Thompson? COME ON!
Don't know Bill Owens
I do think this, whoever it is has to be nationally known if Hillary runs. Name recognition is a bigger deal than people think.
Frist could move over to the left just a tad and be GTG with Republicans.
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12-22-2004, 18:26
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You're just starting trouble again. 
McCain will not run as a Dem, as VP or Pres. He'd never win the Dem primary, and I don't think he'd win the GOP primary either. Too conservative and too liberal.
I see no strong GOP candidates for 2008 so far. Let's see who can raise some money!
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