Now the American Flag is a racist symbol

[Team Sergeant]

Personally, I'd like to "force" all of these "professors" to go and live in Somalia for the rest of their worthless, bottom-feeding scumbag lives.





Professors: US flag symbolizes racism, should not be displayed on campus

Todd Starnes

By Todd Starnes
·Published March 11, 2015
·FoxNews.com

A group of university professors has signed a letter showing their solidarity with students who tried to ban the American flag at the University of California, Irvine – because they said Old Glory contributes to racism.

“U.S. nationalism often contributes to racism and xenophobia, and that the paraphernalia of nationalism is in fact often used to intimidate,” read a letter obtained by the website Campus Reform.

A group of Californian lawmakers is working on a bill that that would prohibit publicly funded universities from banning the American flag.

Hundreds across the nation have signed the letter – including some U.C. Irvine professors, Campus Reform reported.

"We admire the courage of the resolution's supporters amid this environment of political immaturity and threat, and support them unequivocally" the letter stated.


How those professors can sleep at night knowing their salaries are paid for by a bunch of xenophobic racists is beyond me.


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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/...yed-on-campus/

[Sigaba]

With respect to members of this BB, the Fox News report is spinning irresponsibly the letter in question so that it over simplifies the University of California at Irvine's position on the now vetoed flag resolution.

The letter is supporting the right of members of the UCI community to speak their minds on a controversial subject (nationalism) without being subject to harassment and to intimidation.

In my view, the letter's signators are not a unified front that is labeling the American flag as racist. Indeed, one signator, UCI's chancellor, Howard Gillman, made it very clear that he disagreed with the resolution in an stinging rebuke dated 8 March (emphasis added)

March 8, 2015:

Statement on ASUCI Actions

Dear Friends:

When tens of thousands of young people are brought together and encouraged to explore new ideas, it is inevitable that small numbers of them are, on occasion, going to express views that are unconventional and even outrageous.

A few days ago, on a campus of more than 30,000 students, six of them expressed the view that no flags — not the American flag, and also not the flag of any other nation — should be displayed in a very small interior lobby area of the offices of student government. If these students were acting in a private capacity and expressing personal views then there would be no reason to pay attention. But these six students were acting in an official capacity, as members of a small sub-set of our student government known as Legislative Council, and it was outrageous and indefensible that they would question the appropriateness of displaying the American flag on this great campus.

The administration swiftly, strongly, and publicly denounced the action. Importantly, UCI students also immediately began to express their disappointment and outrage at the actions of these six students. Our elected student body president condemned the action, calling the decision “horrible” and “an attack on American values.” Those news organizations that sought a truthful account of the issue, and that interviewed UCI students, found one student after another saying that the views of these six did not represent the students at UCI.

As a formal expression of the true views of the UCI community, the Executive Cabinet of our student government has now vetoed this resolution, stating that they “fundamentally disagree with the actions taken by the ASUCI Legislative Council” on this issue. I applaud this action and am proud of the members of the Executive Cabinet, as I am proud of the many other students who made sure that their opposition to the original effort was clearly heard on this campus and around the world. Special thanks are owed to a member of our outstanding ROTC program, who volunteered to stand guard over the disputed flag while this issue was being resolved.

We are an institution created by the world’s greatest democracy in order to serve this democracy, and we feel privileged to be able to serve the cause of freedom and progress under the American flag. Our ROTC presents its colors at our most important events. Before too long we will see even more Stars and Stripes at UCI, as we add additional flagpoles near the campus entrance on Bison. Make no mistake: the American flag proudly flies throughout the University of California, Irvine, including outside my office window, and will continue to do so.

[Richard]

Seems to me the letter (below) is offering support for the student's protected {1A) rights, and not agreement with their failed resolution.

Richard

UCI Student Support Letter

To the Legislative Council:

We write to support the six members who offered the resolution to remove national flags from the ASUCI lobby. The university ought to respect their political position and meet its obligation to protect and promote their safety. The resolution recognized that nationalism, including U.S. nationalism, often contributes to racism and xenophobia, and that the paraphernalia of nationalism is in fact often used to intimidate. This is a more or less uncontroversial scholarly point, and in practice the resolution has drawn admiration nationally from much of the academic community. In fact, the resolution's perspective has been completely borne out by recent events. Over the weekend, UCI has been inundated with racist, xenophobic comments and death threats against the students from people who are, precisely, invested in the paraphernalia of nationalism. UCI's official Facebook page, for example, has filled up with violent and racist remarks. Its official moderator, representing UCI, has neither repudiated the comments nor deleted them--even the death threats. Meanwhile the university has linked its own communications to Fox News, a notoriously inaccurate media source associated with racism, xenophobia and U.S. nationalism. We are afraid that Chancellor Gillman's response [http://chancellor.uci.edu/about/writ...-actions.html] will have the effect of licensing further harassment. We admire the courage of the resolution's supporters amid this environment of political immaturity and threat, and support them unequivocally.

Sincerely,
{Signed}

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1t1Z...UYZnQ/viewform

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Richard

Seems to me the letter (below) is offering support for the student's protected 2A rights, and not agreement with their failed resolution.

Richard

2nd Amendment Rights ???

When were weapons involved ???

[Pete]

Richard, we can read the same thing and come to two different conclusions.

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by Pete

Richard, we can read the same thing and come to two different conclusions.

Concur. I'm with TS. I know plenty American patriots who grew up in various sh*tholes all over the world. I'd like these student activists and their professors supporters to "sample" lives in these sh*tholes for a few years then see how they appraise the American flag on the ship/helicopter/soldiers that's coming to rescue their sorry ass.

Yes, I am aware of use of the flag in all kinds of faux patriotism activities that promote division and racism, but to blame the flag for those activities is ludicrous, or simply an attempt to insert a totally different agenda

I wont be surprised if these ingrate ******** receive the same treatment as this fool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzFd8nU4TI8

[Javadrinker]

For those that need the help..

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

2nd Amendment Rights ???

When were weapons involved ???

Thanks - I meant 1A. I've been on the road all day and must be more tired than I thought.

Richard

[Joker]

Originally Posted by Richard

Seems to me the letter (below) is offering support for the student's protected {1A) rights, and not agreement with their failed resolution.

Richard

Not the way I read it, in fact just the opposite.

[x SF med]

Maybe they should move to Russia and pull the same shit with the Russian flag which is definitely a symbol of xenophobia and racism. Anybody pogrom, mental health check in Siberia on Aisle 1, icepick to the eardrum, Black Russians or Ukrainians/Latvians/Lithuanians/Estonians/Chechens/Urali...?

Wow friggin clueless idiots... espousing the ideals set out by our enemies (Russia is NOT our friend nor ally) to destroy the structure and solidity of the US...

But hey, we're just knuckle dragging Neolithic soldiers who don't understand the 'benefits' of Socialism and Communism, much less spell them correctly or use them in a sentence properly. An example of a short direct sentence that disproves the libtard attitude: Socialism and Communism suck.

[Roguish Lawyer]

The Marxist seizure of our schools and universities by the left, starting in the 60s, was the key victory in the anti-American insurgency. This stuff is exactly why Giuliani says the President hates America -- it is hatred of natural rights and what Reagan called the shining city on a hill, not the people. I don't see how we can reverse the tide without giving the schools and universities a much-needed enema. Don't underestimate the power of these morons -- they have been teaching kids for decades now, and they are winning.

[PedOncoDoc]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

The Marxist seizure of our schools and universities by the left, starting in the 60s, was the key victory in the anti-American insurgency. This stuff is exactly why Giuliani says the President hates America -- it is hatred of natural rights and what Reagan called the shining city on a hill, not the people. I don't see how we can reverse the tide without giving the schools and universities a much-needed enema. Don't underestimate the power of these morons -- they have been teaching kids for decades now, and they are winning.

A good friend of mine from high school has been taking on the ivory tower for some time. He's been interviewed on CNN and Fox News as the founder and director of a foundation that fights censorship in the name of being "politically correct" on university campuses.

[craigepo]

Originally Posted by Richard

Seems to me the letter (below) is offering support for the student's protected {1A) rights, and not agreement with their failed resolution.

Richard

UCI Student Support Letter

To the Legislative Council:

We write to support the six members who offered the resolution to remove national flags from the ASUCI lobby. The university ought to respect their political position and meet its obligation to protect and promote their safety. The resolution recognized that nationalism, including U.S. nationalism, often contributes to racism and xenophobia, and that the paraphernalia of nationalism is in fact often used to intimidate. This is a more or less uncontroversial scholarly point, and in practice the resolution has drawn admiration nationally from much of the academic community. In fact, the resolution's perspective has been completely borne out by recent events. Over the weekend, UCI has been inundated with racist, xenophobic comments and death threats against the students from people who are, precisely, invested in the paraphernalia of nationalism. UCI's official Facebook page, for example, has filled up with violent and racist remarks. Its official moderator, representing UCI, has neither repudiated the comments nor deleted them--even the death threats. Meanwhile the university has linked its own communications to Fox News, a notoriously inaccurate media source associated with racism, xenophobia and U.S. nationalism. We are afraid that Chancellor Gillman's response [http://chancellor.uci.edu/about/writ...-actions.html] will have the effect of licensing further harassment. We admire the courage of the resolution's supporters amid this environment of political immaturity and threat, and support them unequivocally.

Sincerely,
{Signed}

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1t1Z...UYZnQ/viewform

So, Fox News is a notoriously inaccurate media source associated with racism, xenophobia, and U.S. nationalism. When your remarks lack weight, always fall back on mudslinging.

"The university ought to respect their political position". Really.

When did this crap become the new normal for university professors? Who pays these clowns? Why is it that professors are selected, not for real world experience, but for academic (defined as having no practical importance) endeavors.

"We admire the courage of the resolution's supporters..." At some point, normal people are going to tire of hogwash.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc

A good friend of mine from high school has been taking on the ivory tower for some time. He's been interviewed on CNN and Fox News as the founder and director of a foundation that fights censorship in the name of being "politically correct" on university campuses.

MOO, the most effective ways to affect change in the Ivory Tower are (1) to make sure that junior high and high school students acquire the skills and confidence they will need to define their educational needs, and (2) let academics continue to have the increasingly energetic debates over higher education that are take place in the open (if one knows where to look).

IMO, treating academics as a monolithic group is the opposite of "divide and conquer." As an example, Howard Gillman, who built his career at USC, is the type of academic who is going to call BS on excessive asshattery in the Ivory Tower but will be among the most capable defenders of academics.

[Surf n Turf]

Originally Posted by Richard

Seems to me the letter (below) is offering support for the student's protected {1A) rights, and not agreement with their failed resolution.

Richard,

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you parse the paragraph it supports the position, not the right of the students to have an opinion --- see below

SnT

"We write to support the six members who offered the resolution to remove national flags from the ASUCI lobby.

The university ought to respect their political position and meet its obligation to protect and promote their safety.

The resolution recognized that nationalism, including U.S. nationalism, often contributes to racism and xenophobia, and that the paraphernalia of nationalism is in fact often used to intimidate. This is a more or less uncontroversial scholarly point, and in practice the resolution has drawn admiration nationally from much of the academic community.

In fact, the resolution's perspective has been completely borne out by recent events. Over the weekend, UCI has been inundated with racist, xenophobic comments and death threats against the students from people who are, precisely, invested in the paraphernalia of nationalism."