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Old 12-18-2004, 08:08   #1
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The "Virtual Corporation" and Army Organization

Has anyone read this?

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Old 12-18-2004, 10:00   #2
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No I have not read it but I have read a lot of other treatesis that deal with the same subject and the concept is a real thorn in my side and one of my biggest complaints with the "Corporate Philosophy" that the DOD attempts to apply to running the military. When I retired the VA told me I was unemployable because my skills were not adaptable to the civilian community at large and sent me to school for a masters in business. Having gone thru all of that there is a hugh difference between the military mindset in the combat arms and in corporate America. The military gets things done leading people and managing resources the corporate world gets thing done managing resources (including people that they are often quoted as their most important resource) and leading nothing. The focus is also different. Corporatation manage to maximise their bottom line and are often efficient when it come to application of resources and work to achieve a profit. The military is often not efficient because effectiveness is not measured in dollars but the accomplish of roles, tasks and missions using whatever resources they can get or making some one else use up their resouces. Sitting thru what the business world calls leadership training was a painful experience to the point where I rebelled, took over several classes and brought some reality into the academia. In fact, the corporate world was attempting to use military lessons learned but failed to understand that the military is not a democracy, had less rights in some areas and more power to make things happen or take corrective, and when necessary serious punitive actions, to resolve problems. I'll stop now, as this subject really winds me up.

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Old 12-18-2004, 10:30   #3
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No I have not read it but I have read a lot of other treatesis that deal with the same subject and the concept is a real thorn in my side and one of my biggest complaints with the "Corporate Philosophy" that the DOD attempts to apply to running the military. When I retired the VA told me I was unemployable because my skills were not adaptable to the civilian community at large and sent me to school for a masters in business. Having gone thru all of that there is a hugh difference between the military mindset in the combat arms and in corporate America. The military gets things done leading people and managing resources the corporate world gets thing done managing resources (including people that they are often quoted as their most important resource) and leading nothing. The focus is also different. Corporatation manage to maximise their bottom line and are often efficient when it come to application of resources and work to achieve a profit. The military is often not efficient because effectiveness is not measured in dollars but the accomplish of roles, tasks and missions using whatever resources they can get or making some one else use up their resouces. Sitting thru what the business world calls leadership training was a painful experience to the point where I rebelled, took over several classes and brought some reality into the academia. In fact, the corporate world was attempting to use military lessons learned but failed to understand that the military is not a democracy, had less rights in some areas and more power to make things happen or take corrective, and when necessary serious punitive actions, to resolve problems. I'll stop now, as this subject really winds me up.

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You sound very much like my husband recounting some of his experiences. If I get a blank stare when I ask for an org chart, I know I'm in trouble.

"NVOs and the military" have become a topic of discussion and I need to get better educated on the pros and cons. Can anyone recommend any reading material/sources to get me started?
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