Gammer gets "Swatted" live

[Sdiver]

This just happened on the south side of metro Denver.

Police were called to the area of Mineral and Broadway for a report of "shots fired." Several schools were placed in lockdown, including Arapahoe High School which was/is over 3 1/2 miles away.

SWAT was called in and started clearing the business buildings around that intersection.

Well, this guy was apparently "gaming" and caught this on camera ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odwI9qcCaGA

Getting into a discussion with someone here at the office, if this were to happen to you, would you start the "Am I under Arrest? ....Am I being detained? ... Am I free to leave?" banter, or would you just give the police your first name when they ask(ed) for your name and then ... SHUT THE HELL UP ????

Unknown if this kid was pranked by someone he was playing with, or if someone mistakenly heard gunshots from his game, thinking they were real and then "freaked out" (as the media is hyping this kind of thing up now-a-days), or there really could have been "shots fired" and this kid just got caught in the middle.

So again, in this type of situation do you do the Am I .... ? back and forth or do you just shut up?

[atticus finch]

You're already on the deck cuffed, you are detained, maybe not under arrest but you are damn sure detained which means you have the right to remain silent. That is what you do, answer no questions whatsoever.
I wouldn't bother with the "am I being detained.." or anything of the sort at that point, you already are & under those circumstances doing that is likely just going to get them more amped than they already are. Piss them off & under those circumstances you're likely going to take the ride downtown. You aren't going to beat the ride downtown so why say a word to them?
You don't have to be rude ie: stupid, you simply do not have to tell them a thing, your name, home address, nothing, & that is what I'd do.
They come pouring through the door, point a gun at me & then put me on the deck in cuffs? Ask for my ID or what I'm doing there? I don't have a word to say to them or answer any questions of any sort until I have representation present.
You'll note soon as the kid told them he's streaming the video the cop comes over & cuts the camera off. Should have kept his yap shut.

Add edit: This is a swat team, this isn't the "normal" circumstances you'd have in a police encounter. Under a "normal" police encounter, traffic stop or if an officer otherwise wants to start asking questions, then yes I would specifically and politely ask if I am being detained or free to go and make it clear I do not consent to any conversations with the officer.
And I would continue to politely ask that question until I got a definite yes or no answer and respond to no other questions until I got a definite yes or no answer to that question.
If it means a ride downtown because he doesn't like being told no, fine I take the ride.

[Pete]

It appears they grabbed his phone pretty quick. Bozo appeared to be having fun looking through it. So somebody called to report shots fired? Did they suspect he did it and that's why they were looking through his phone?

Bozo also appeared not to like being filmed.

But some would say "If you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't mind having your civil rights violated."

[rubberneck]

Originally Posted by Pete

It appears they grabbed his phone pretty quick. Bozo appeared to be having fun looking through it. So somebody called to report shots fired? Did they suspect he did it and that's why they were looking through his phone?

Bozo also appeared not to like being filmed.

But some would say "If you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't mind having your civil rights violated."

Wasn't there a recent SCOTUS decision that said that LEO can't look through a suspects phone without first obtaining a warrant?

[Pete]

Originally Posted by rubberneck

Wasn't there a recent SCOTUS decision that said that LEO can't look through a suspects phone without first obtaining a warrant?

"...I AM THE LAW..."

[atticus finch]

Originally Posted by Pete

It appears they grabbed his phone pretty quick. Bozo appeared to be having fun looking through it. So somebody called to report shots fired? Did they suspect he did it and that's why they were looking through his phone?

Bozo also appeared not to like being filmed.

But some would say "If you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't mind having your civil rights violated."

"If I have nothing to hide officer, as you claim. Then there's no probable cause or reasonably articulable suspicion on your part of me or anything I'm doing. That is the law who's sworn duty it is yours to uphold and abide by. Consequently I do not consent to any searches of my property or my self, you will have to obtain a warrant to enter my property"

I always got: "why are you being uncooperative?"

" why do you equate my abiding by established law as is my civic duty as well as your sworn duty to uphold and abide by the same law as being uncooperative? "

Boy do they hate to hear those two things.........

[MR2]

Originally Posted by atticus finch

Boy do they hate to hear those two things.........

Then they will really like this: "Officer, you are free to go now".

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

On a forum I read, someone said that the officer probably knew that in doing that, nothing found on the phone would be admissible in court since it was being done without a warrant, but that he may have done it anyway just to make sure that there wasn't say a trigger for a bomb or something.

So the cop was well versed in how to not trigger a bomb when using a cell phone he's never touched before?

That Brain is wasting his time on the PD.

[PSM]

Attempted warrantless home search on this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZh9xumD1cQ

Pat

[Loadsmasher]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

. Why was he so confrontational with the police to begin with since he KNEW a crime was committed and was even a witness.

Maybe because like a lot of people he doesn't see the police as helpful public servants. Or maybe he doesn't want to give up his rights just because Officer Jellybean heard from "someone" that he was buddies with the woman beater.

Police in this country are suffering from the worst PR they have had in decades because their IO campaign is "We cant release details of an ongoing investigation". And when video after video surfaces of the shitty 5% of cops that have no business in any kind of uniform violating people's right not to get the shit kicked out of them for "Contempt of Cop" and the other 95% of cops form up the blue wall of silence when they should be first in line to give Officer Asshat a blanket party. The bad eggs should be excised like cancer in the middle of the town square with cameras rolling as they cut the patches off their uniforms (or rip the velcro off their multicams). Every time good cops cover for or remain silent about bad cops they all share the stain on their honor.

[Scimitar]

Peelian Nine Principles of Policing

To recognize always that the power of the police to fulfill their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behavior, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect....cont

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