05-15-2014, 13:08
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Dept. of Agriculture submits order for sub-machin guns
Did I miss something, have honey bees been labeled as domestic terrorists ???
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Solicitation Number:
USDAOIGWEA-5-7-14 Notice Type:
Sources Sought
Synopsis:
Added: May 07, 2014 2:03 pm
The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe or folding, magazine - 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation. NO SOLICITATION DOCUMENT EXISTS. All responsible and/or interested sources may submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone. If received timely, shall be considered by the agency for contact to determine weapon suitability.
Contracting Office Address:
1400 Independence Ave., SW, Room 40-E J.L. Whitten Fed Bldg
Washington, District of Columbia 20250
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...=core&_cview=0
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05-15-2014, 13:09
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Saw that this morning and said WTF?
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05-15-2014, 13:11
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Going to help the FDA go after those organic farmers and raw milk cults because SWAT/SRT....
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05-15-2014, 13:39
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They should get HK to start making mp5 .40's again or maybe they can just borrow off the FBI. Either way the market needs more parts kits.
I'd think with the impending doom of the range wars they'd be looking at more of a belt-fed option than sub guns 
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05-15-2014, 14:23
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Now that I think about it...Forestry Service? But, don't they operate under their own budget?
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05-15-2014, 16:50
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Getting our race approvals through USFS on a local level they are Dept of Agriculture, as said. They actually have quite a few enforcement slots.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/r2/
Over the years I understood " The Forest service is about preservation and the Park Service is about recreation."
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05-15-2014, 17:22
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interesting .. more and more law enforcement "NEEDS" fully automatic weapons but the citizens do not need guns. wtf?
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05-15-2014, 17:27
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An SMG is a CQB weapon, unless I am mistaken.
That means indoor engagements, probably SWAT like.
Any guy roaming outside or looking for a patrol gun would be much better off with an M-4.
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05-15-2014, 19:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
An SMG is a CQB weapon, unless I am mistaken.
That means indoor engagements, probably SWAT like.
Any guy roaming outside or looking for a patrol gun would be much better off with an M-4.
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A lot of shit goes down in chicken coops and dairy farms
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05-15-2014, 19:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brush Okie
That was EXACTLY my thought when I read that.
Actually I prefer a 12 gauge pump at CQB but I am not a CQB expert by any stretch of the imagination. My idea of room clearing is throw in a WP and move on.
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05-15-2014, 19:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
A lot of shit goes down in chicken coops and dairy farms
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Can't speak for the chickens but the hogs and cattle tend to run in packs and have been know to pie corners and use shock and awe when cornered. Whats goes on,... on the farm stays on the farm.
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05-15-2014, 20:01
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It's time for a "DisarmtheFeds.com" website........ some federal agencies do not require weapons........
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05-15-2014, 20:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brush Okie
WTF with a 2 shot burst?
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30% cost savings per trigger pull compared to a 3 round burst. They're saving money.
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05-15-2014, 21:45
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I'm reminded of when people got very confused as to why the Dept. of energy needed a SWAT team. My best guess is either factory farms, or those nice farmers who dump a couple hundred gallons of left over pig crap/AN fertilizer into rivers.
As for the two round burst thing, I've heard it's popular with some of the feds for control and accuracy versus full auto and three round burst. Then again it's mostly reserved for shoot to kill kinda shit, like HRT/raids and what not as far as I've been told, so I have no idea who or what the department of agriculture needs to be killing? 
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05-15-2014, 22:22
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Could this be the weapon being requested by the USDA ???
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