Correcting Grammar And Spelling Is Racist, You Racist Jerks

[MtnGoat]

Well here you go all you educators.

Correcting Grammar And Spelling Is Racist, You Racist Jerks says one UCLA Prof.

http://chicksontheright.com/posts/it...u-racist-jerks

[Lan]

Oh the depravity of the white man

[Richard]

A "news" mention in the higher ed circles 2 months ago.

Here's the original reporting.

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2...cially-hostile

Professors (and departments within a college) have an enormous amount of leeway in their courses, especially in an area like preference of writing styles and citations. I've had semesters where different classes had different demands for acceptable writing styles; I'm pretty certain most people who ever attended college have experienced that one.

And so it goes...

Richard

[Peregrino]

Originally Posted by MtnGoat

Well here you go all you educators.

Correcting Grammar And Spelling Is Racist, You Racist Jerks says one UCLA Prof.

http://chicksontheright.com/posts/it...u-racist-jerks

Shaking my head. Did you pause before posting this to consider how many times someone of your/our acquaintance has attempted misdirection, obfuscation, and appeals to social/cultural norms in an attempt to deflect criticism of their sub-par written communications skills? (At least when you post, the content is worth the effort to decipher! )

[ddoering]

Sounds to me like their feelings were hurt. Boo fucking hoo.

[Surf n Turf]

Originally Posted by Richard

A "news" mention in the higher ed circles 2 months ago.

And so it goes...

Richard

Richard,
Please tell me that those in Higher Education don't talk as they write
SnT

A hostile campus climate has been the norm for Students of Color in this class throughout the quarter as our epistemological and methodological commitments have been repeatedly questioned by our classmates and our instructor.

The statement accuses “the professor” of correcting “perceived grammatical choices that in actuality reflect ideologies” and “repeatedly questioning the value of our work on social identity and the related dynamics of oppression, power and privilege.”

“escalating hostility directed at the only Male of Color in this cohort

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Surf n Turf

Richard,
Please tell me that those in Higher Education don't talk as they write
SnT

Jargon - it infests all walks of life.

And so it goes...

Richard

[Divemaster]

Knowing the difference between there, their, and they’re; your, you’re; to and too just means I have an advantage because of race? The fact that my family struggled to feed us when I was young was meaningless due to my white skin? Getting my ass kicked as one of about ten white kids in an inner city New Orleans public school was just an accident because kids of color by definition cannot possibly be racist and they were just exacting justice on the “man”, even though the “man” was ten years old? And that my parents finally rescued me by sacrificing a huge chunk of their income to get me into Catholic school was white flight (by definition a racist act)?

I grew up an Air Force brat in the late 60s and early 70s. My parents were white, as am I with the blue eyes to prove it. Dad was from Brooklyn, mom from small town New Hampshire. My father taught us that people were people. In our military family I knew nothing of race. Members of his unit were always welcome in our tiny military house. I played with white, black, and brown kids. Mom always had cookies and Kool-Aid ready for all of us. Much too young to remember (probably 3 or 4), I apparently repeated the racial epithets the locally hired movers used while out loading our neighbors, and my 4 year old best friend, of a color I can’t, nor should, remember, to their next duty station. However, I do remember the hide tanning I received for using words that hurt good people. My lessons of anti-racism were taught to me by my white parents. Lessons of racism were taught to me by people I never trusted from my own and other races. I chose to remember the lessons of my parents.

And my use of the English language, for ill or good, is my own. Not learned from (nor blamed upon) my parents, neither of whom went beyond high school. My own intellect developed from a hunger for reading, learning, history, and was independent of the military school system and the public schools I attended. And, actually, doesn’t reflect the grades I received 30 plus years ago. Don’t get me wrong, I won’t be challenging Steven Hawking in a science bee or Alex Trebek in trivia. But an inner fire fueled learning.

I could carry this rant on further, but realize I’ve lost most readers paragraphs ago. But correcting grammar as racist is...well...racist. Are professors really saying that students of other races can't learn? Wasn't that exactly what racists were saying 50 or 100 years ago?

[Richard]

And so it goes...

Richard

[Divemaster]

Please don't read, or "hear" my above post as a Richard Sherman type rant. I'm not the best corner in the NFL. Just read it in a conversational tone, with no emotion or inflection inferred. Thanks.

[MtnGoat]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

Shaking my head. Did you pause before posting this to consider how many times someone of your/our acquaintance has attempted misdirection, obfuscation, and appeals to social/cultural norms in an attempt to deflect criticism of their sub-par written communications skills? (At least when you post, the content is worth the effort to decipher! )

Yeap.. I figured and was ready for it.

[JimP]

Divemaster - well stated.
I always find it laughable (but not so much the "ha-ha" laughing...), that libs are so obvious in their racist views that "people of color" are simply too stupid to learn without a special dispensation. m

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

So with that logic, my family being from the south and considered "poor white trash" if I let my professors know that I can use the N word as well as other remarks since it is just jargon not to mention my poor spelling? It's just my culture you know.

lol White Christian heterosexual males are not afforded latitude with regard to "jargon" as it applies to any other race, gender, sexual preference, or religious conviction, yo.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

So with that logic, my family being from the south and considered "poor white trash" if I let my professors know that I can use the N word as well as other remarks since it is just jargon not to mention my poor spelling? It's just my culture you know.

You, like the UCLA students, are free to try and apply your 'logic' in such a formal environment, but such colloquial speech is not generally equated to being jargon.

I was commenting on the writer's use of the words you hi-lighted - jargon, the specialized language (words and style) used by people in the same work or profession - and not what is generally considered geographically colloquial language that you're now describing.

Ever read a dissertation or two? It can be painful.

Richard

[ghp95134]

Originally Posted by Divemaster

...
I grew up an Air Force brat in the late 60s and early 70s. My parents were white, as am I with the blue eyes to prove it. Dad was from Brooklyn, mom from small town New Hampshire. My father taught us that people were people. In our military family I knew nothing of race. Members of his unit were always welcome in our tiny military house. I played with white, black, and brown kids. Mom always had cookies and Kool-Aid ready for all of us. Much too young to remember (probably 3 or 4), I apparently repeated the racial epithets the locally hired movers used while out loading our neighbors, and my 4 year old best friend, of a color I can’t, nor should, remember, to their next duty station. However, I do remember the hide tanning I received for using words that hurt good people. My lessons of anti-racism were taught to me by my white parents. Lessons of racism were taught to me by people I never trusted from my own and other races. I chose to remember the lessons of my parents.

Divemaster, you sound like you grew up in my family! I'm an army brat and everything you wrote was experienced by me -- but I'm from the 50s~60s.

The lesson from my father ... after the spanking ... was that "the negroes in the army are very good people who work harder than white people to be successful. You [ghp95134] are no better than they are: good people are good; bad people are bad; color has nothing to do with it. I never want you to say that again. Do you understand me!?"

Lesson learned. And "oh by the way" my father was born and raised in Columbus GA (and I was born at Ft. Benning).


However, with that all said ..... my current rhetorical question is: Why today can someone say "People of Color" .... but we cannot say "Colored People"? Sounds like it is the same thing to me.

--ghp