Boehner: Conservatives Reaction to Budget Deal is Ridiculous

[Dusty]

Somebody get Boner a binkie and a box of Kleenex...

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congr...ulous-20131211


House Speaker John Boehner went off on outside conservative groups Wednesday morning for pushing against the new budget deal.

"They're using our members and they're using the American people for their own goals," he said. "This is ridiculous."

Several key conservative groups are against the sequester relief within the new budget deal.

"Though conservatives support more spending restraint, the discretionary spending limits defined in the Budget Control Act represent a promise to the American people to marginally slow the growth of government," reads a letter signed by the heads of Heritage Action, the Family Research Council, and the American Conservative Union. Heritage Action's Michael Needham penned an op-ed in USA Today on Tuesday calling the deal "a step backward." The Cato Institute called the deal a "huge Republican cave-in."

Dan Holler, the communications director at Heritage Action, responded to Boehner's comments Wednesday morning:

Americans are deeply concerned about the direction of the country. Over the next few days, lawmakers will have to explain to their constituents, many of whom are our members, what they've achieved by increasing spending, increasing taxes and offering up another round of promises waiting to be broken. That will be a really tough sell back home. Meanwhile, we'll continue fighting to achieve our goal, which is create an America where freedom, opportunity, prosperity and civil society flourish.

Rep. Paul Ryan also addressed his conservative critics Wednesday, calling the attacks from the right "a strange new normal." Ryan, for his part, is doing everything he can to remind his critics that he's a conservative:

Boehner has a tough path ahead of him as he tries to get this deal passed with Republican support. But, so far, he's making it clear that he won't go down easy.

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[Streck-Fu]

Combining this:

Hard to believe, but federal employees currently receive both a pension and a 401(k)-style plan with a taxpayer matching contribution. Most Americans in the private economy get one or the other if they get anything at all. Federal workers also contribute a mere 0.8% of their annual pay to their pension, which is unheard of even in major corporations. The deal increases that by 1.3-percentage points for new federal hires.

with this:

Military retirees under age 62 will see their cost-of-living increases reduced to the annual increase in the consumer price index minus 1%. The military brass requested this as a way to help them adjust to the decline in overall military spending.

Pisses me off.....

[Lan]

What's the breaking point? When are Americans going to stop talking and start acting? Is it too heinous or naive to suggest we forcibly remove everyone from office and start fresh?

[rubberneck]

The Republicans gave up part of the sequester for the next two years in return for entitlement changes that will take years to balance out the current spending increase and could be undone. Reagan learned the hard way never to trade something concrete immediately in exchange for the promise something later on. The Dems have no morals, if they can undo their half of the agreement four years from now they'll do it in a heartbeat.

Mark Levine beat Paul Ryan about the head for making this deal. $28 billion dollars in savings on a $17 trillion deficit is a complete and total joke. Ryan was saying that they were never going to get a deal from the Dems on the big items so they're kicking the can down the road to the day when they control both the house and senate as well as the presidency. I'd love to think that will happen three years from now but it might not. What's the price of punting for the next 5 years? 10 years?, or however long.

It's a stupid deal by cut by men who are more concerned with cementing their own power than doing what needs to be done now.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Lan

What's the breaking point? When are Americans going to stop talking and start acting? Is it too heinous or naive to suggest we forcibly remove everyone from office and start fresh?

Why not just vote 'em out in '14? The dems don;t usually put a lot of effort into fraud for the midterms.

[Lan]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Why not just vote 'em out in '14? The dems don;t usually put a lot of effort into fraud for the midterms.

I feel like that won't solve anything. Doesn't mean I'm right, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels like we're choosing between Coke and Pepsi. Would a New Democratic government solve our problems? I don't know.

[MR2]

Military retirees under age 62 will see their cost-of-living increases reduced to the annual increase in the consumer price index minus 1%. The military brass requested this as a way to help them adjust to the decline in overall military spending.

Guess I'll be headed over to my congress critters house and help myself to his SUV.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Lan

I feel like that won't solve anything. Doesn't mean I'm right, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels like we're choosing between Coke and Pepsi. Would a New Democratic government solve our problems? I don't know.

If you're referencing the RINO's and pantywaist appeasers in the seats, now-of course our problems wouldn't get solved.

We need an amped-up '10 race, with Tea Party-ish candidates and no libdemon backstabbing and skullduggery such as we got from Lerner.

Don't give up a fight before it's over. You don't need to curl up in the fetal position, stick your thumb in your mouth, and let the leaves cover you up, but you don't need to start flirting with thoughts of any kind of unnecessary response or action, either.

Allot yourself as much time as you spend in leisure in some type of grassroots activity in support of the candidate(s) you feel should be sitting in a position of leadership instead of the jackanapes who sit their, now.

I'm using "you" in the impersonal-don't get offended.

[Lan]

I'm more concerned with the American people given the outcome of the last presidential election. Like MR2 quoted, there's a big problem with the gap between soldier and politician in terms of benefits and pay. That's just one example of the many things wrong with this country. I'll hope for the best in the mean time, and get involved like you suggested. Sage advice Dusty. Thanks.

I'm not offended.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Lan

I'm more concerned with the American people given the outcome of the last presidential election.

There's a little less than half of them who give a hoot what's going on, anyway. The ones we need to coordinate with do.

Very nearly all Obamabots remaining don't even know who Lois Lerner, Sebellius or Boehner are, much less how lousy they are at their jobs; Obamacare doesn't mean anything to them because they never pay for health care, anyway. More concerned with Air Jordans on the one hand and baby seals on the other.

Most of the free cell phone recipients don't even know who Biden is.

Shouldn't be a problem in '14 to wipe the floor in both houses.

[Trapper John]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: IMO, the difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is a blurred distinction in name only. We have moved to a de facto one party system.

So remind me again, what is the difference between us and China?

[Lan]

Originally Posted by Trapper John

I've said it before and I'll say it again: IMO, the difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is a blurred distinction in name only. We have moved to a de facto one party system.

So remind me again, what is the difference between us and China?

I agree with this. We need honest, non corporate gift taking, intelligent, conservative, reasonable people governing the things that need governing. I would vote for a number of people on this board, if they ran for office.

Would the military carry out orders to stop an uprising from the citizens it protects? The 2nd ammendment letter drafted by this board makes me think they wouldn't. The media feeds most Americans BS, so I have a hard time counting on a democratic vote to incite positive 'change'

[Lan]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Shouldn't be a problem in '14 to wipe the floor in both houses.

I just hope we get some real honest conservatives.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Trapper John

I've said it before and I'll say it again: IMO, the difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is a blurred distinction in name only. We have moved to a de facto one party system.

So remind me again, what is the difference between us and China?

You don't get hungry an hour after eating a triple Angus Burger, do you?

[Box]

fiscally liberal politicians are always get upset when fiscally conservative people call them on their bullshit
Just because a liar has an
...Sorry I meant to say, "just because a politician has an (R) after his name doesnt mean he is the least bit interested in conservative governance." It just means that he understands that he is from a district or state that prefers to see the letter R associated with their ballot choice.

...not all republicants are 'conservative' just like not all dimocrits are 'liberal'

...but they are ALL liars that misspeak and misrepresent whatever they need in order to stay in office.

Truth in lending, I reckon most people would probably succumb to the corruption of politics once they get to wet their beak in the public coffers with no fear of reprisal

Its like hating a fly for landing on shit...
...its in their nature; they are drawn to it