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Old 09-27-2013, 13:02   #1
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Republicans. Fix Bayonets.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/republicans-fix-bayonets/

After his narrow defeat by Gerald Ford at the Kansas City convention in 1976, Ronald Reagan was seen as a has-been.

Came the Carter-Torrijos treaties of 1977, however, which gave away the Panama Canal, and the old cowboy strapped on his guns:

“We bought it. We paid for it. It’s ours. And we’re gonna keep it.”

America loved it. Bill Buckley said we must recognize reality and transfer the canal. GOP Senate leader Howard Baker was the toast of the city as he led 16 Republicans to vote with Jimmy Carter. The treaties were approved.

Reagan’s consolation prize? The presidency of the United States.

Voters in New Hampshire in 1980, remembering his lonely stand, rewarded Reagan with a decisive victory over George H. W. Bush, who had defeated Reagan in Iowa. When Howard Baker came in, he was greeted as “Panama Howie,” and did not survive the primary.

The Republican war over whether to bow to the seemingly inevitable and fund Obamacare is a Panama Canal issue. How one votes here may decisively affect one’s career.

Ted Cruz may have, as Richard Nixon used to say, “broken his pick” in the Republican caucus. Yet, on Obamacare, his analysis is right, his instincts are right, his disposition to fight is right.

These are more important matters than the news that he is out of the running for the Mr. Congeniality award on Capitol Hill.

If Obamacare is funded, the subsidies starting in January will constitute a morphine drip from which America’s health-care system will not recover. If not stopped now, Obamacare is forever.

Senate Republicans should be asking themselves why Cruz and Rand Paul, two newcomers to the Senate of decidedly different temperaments, are being talked of as credible candidates in the presidential primaries of 2016.

Answer: Both are clear in their convictions, unapologetic about them and willing to break some china to achieve them. And that part of America upon which the GOP depends most is increasingly frustrated and angry with those who run the national party.

Americans don’t want a dignified surrender on Obamacare. They want someone to drive a stake through Obamacare.

And the question that is going to be answered in coming weeks is: Is the GOP willing to shove its whole stack into the middle of the table, for a showdown over Obamacare? Or will the House GOP in the end cast the decisive vote to make Obamacare permanent?

For, as columnist Terry Jeffrey writes, “[M]ake no mistake. If Obamacare is funded and implemented, it will be because Republican members of Congress decided to do it.”

As Terry notes, Congress has absolute power over the public purse. Article I of the Constitution says, “No money shall be drawn from the Treasury but in consequence of appropriations made by law.”

The law authorizing President Obama to spend more money for Obamacare expires Sept. 30. If the House refuses to vote for any bill that contains new Obamacare funding, Obamacare is dead.

Thus the Republican House controls the fate of Obamacare.

But if we don’t fund Obamacare, comes the Republican wail, Harry Reid will let the government shut down, the American people will blame us, and all of our pundits say we can’t win this fight.

For sure you cannot win if you do not fight.

But if a Democratic Senate refuses to pass the House-passed continuing resolution funding the government, because Obamacare is not in the bill, who is shutting down the government?

If Obama vetoes any continuing resolution funding the government that does not contain Obamacare, who is shutting down the government then?

Who is putting the U.S. economy at risk to protect a bollixed program the American people do not want and Congress would never approve if they voted on it today?

What House Republicans have lacked is not courage, but a political and communications strategy.

Having provided a continuing resolution to fund the government, except Obamacare, the House should next begin passing CRs – one for each department. A CR to fund defense and veterans affairs. A CR to fund state, the CIA and Homeland Security. A CR for justice, transportation, energy, etc. One every day.

Would Harry Reid refuse to fund the U.S. Army and Navy unless John Boehner’s House stuffs Obamacare into the defense budget?

Do Republicans really feel incapable of winning this argument?

Are Republicans so tongue-tied they cannot convince America of the truth: They have already voted to fund the government.

If Republicans capitulate and lose this battle, and this unwanted mess passes into law, there is something deeply wrong with the party.

Two weeks ago, a brave Congress, listening to America, stood up and told Obama: Your red lines be damned; we’re not voting for war on Syria.

Now House Republicans need to tell the country: Come hell or high water, we’re not voting to fund Obamacare. We will pass a CR on everything else in the budget, but Obamacare is not coming out of this House alive.

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Old 09-27-2013, 13:10   #2
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We can only hope that they have the courage to take a stand, a red line of sorts, on this issue. I agree, this is a very, very bad piece of legislation that will bankrupt the US for sure. Now, is the time for all good men......
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Old 09-27-2013, 13:17   #3
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The most flabbergasting part of the whole issue is that roughly two-thirds or more of the people don't want this piece of garbage, but RINO's are blasting Cruz for trying to fight it.

We need to sweep all RINO's and Obama sycophants out of their seats next year. Especially disguised dems such as King, Graham and McCain.
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Strategically, I think it's better to let it blow up. Then the Republicans need to develop, clearly articulate and sell a counter-plan for 2016. Just my opinion.
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Old 09-27-2013, 14:02   #5
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Strategically, I think it's better to let it blow up.
Have you ever seen a government program disappear because it didn't work?

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Old 09-27-2013, 14:38   #6
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I think the ACA is going to be a debacle but they can't win this way. The Dems have the votes. Let them touch the stove. They have to treat the Dems like the guerrilla leader in Robin Sage.

The goal has to be a decisive win in 2016 and that means winning the independent vote. Their goal should be to fix it, not block it; programs get modified all the time. We spend twice the percentage of GDP needed to have an excellent healthcare system. Look at Japan, Germany, France. Better outcomes, half the money spent. It means taking on big pharma and the AMA.

This isn't the only battle that needs fighting. If the ten year bond goes to the mean of the last 20 years--just 5.3%--by 2020 we'll be spending 100% of tax revenues just on interest to service our debt. We're screwed and we need positive solutions.
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Old 09-27-2013, 14:54   #7
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Fix bayonets? The Republican leadership likely knows more about croquet than they do about bare knuckle brawling.

I used to consider myself a member of the GOP but then I realized 90% of the elected members of the GOP are exactly like their democrat counterparts. The only difference is in how they spin themselves on any given issue. They care about securing their reelection and enriching themselves by catering to whatever special interests pay the most, and if they create bad policy along the way they exempt themselves. There is no better example of that then the exemption they secured from the administration from the ACA for themselves and their staff. Never mind the fact that they voted to be forced into the public exchanges. That was just a political sideshow.

With a few notable exceptions the whole lot of them are dirty, rotten no good bastards.

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Old 09-27-2013, 15:16   #8
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The goal has to be a decisive win in 2016 and that means winning the independent vote.
We're gonna win it by being democratish? Like we did in '08 and '12?

Four million independents (and Republicans) plus didn't vote in either of those elections because the candidates weren't Conservatives. The only shot in the arm for McCain's campaign was Palin.

Look what happened in '10 and what will happen in '14. Tea Party Conservatives like Cruz are what the Country needs in order for our freedoms to survive.
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Have you ever seen a government program disappear because it didn't work?

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Exactly. Once this gets in, no matter how bad it smells it won't ever be gone. The only thing that will happen is they will throw more money at it, create bigger beauracracies and create more democrat voters who are completely entitled. Like the founding fathers said once a majority realizes they can vote more benefits for themselves it's over.
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Old 09-27-2013, 15:48   #10
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Like the founding fathers said once a majority realizes they can vote more benefits for themselves it's over.
Amen and amen.

Obamacare was designed to fail, obviously. It's the ticket to a single payer system, which is what the libs wanted in the first place.

Ever wonder how many cottage business plans are being drawn up as I type to enable those who can afford it to fly OCONUS and pay cash on the barrel head for health care? (Because the way the libs are steering it, you won't be able to do it, here, much longer.)
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A good example of a government program that lives on eternally is the REA, the Rural Electrification Administration. Rural America has long since had electricity, yet this holdover from the Roosevelt administration lives on.
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A good example of a government program that lives on eternally is the REA, the Rural Electrification Administration. Rural America has long since had electricity, yet this holdover from the Roosevelt administration lives on.
I think it's called Rural Utilities now. I'm not sure what they do, though, since we couldn't get power to our land here in SE AZ without paying $100,000 for the poles and a $250,000 bond. I prefer being off-grid anyway.

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Amen and amen.

Obamacare was designed to fail, obviously. It's the ticket to a single payer system, which is what the libs wanted in the first place.

Ever wonder how many cottage business plans are being drawn up as I type to enable those who can afford it to fly OCONUS and pay cash on the barrel head for health care? (Because the way the libs are steering it, you won't be able to do it, here, much longer.)
It's been happening for at least 3 years now. I have a friend who cuts discount deals with US hospitals for bulk-rate procedures. He then approaches big employers and gets them to sign exclusive deals. Win-win. Lower costs for the employers (even with airfares) and because the more procedures a center does the better the outcome, a win for the patient. Far fewer complications than using a local hospital (that might do 20 a year) which means much less cost.

He's already being undercut by guys doing the same thing but using Bangalore and St Petersburg hospitals. One tenth the cost and comparable outcomes. He says they charge about $6 to hang a bag of D5W in India vs $100-$700 here. Baxter sells a liter of D5W to US hospitals for about $1.10. Indian hospitals are happy with 100% profit on the bag, administration set, and labor.
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It's been happening for at least 3 years now. I have a friend who cuts discount deals with US hospitals for bulk-rate procedures. He then approaches big employers and gets them to sign exclusive deals. Win-win. Lower costs for the employers (even with airfares) and because the more procedures a center does the better the outcome, a win for the patient. Far fewer complications than using a local hospital (that might do 20 a year) which means much less cost.

He's already being undercut by guys doing the same thing but using Bangalore and St Petersburg hospitals. One tenth the cost and comparable outcomes. He says they charge about $6 to hang a bag of D5W in India vs $100-$700 here. Baxter sells a liter of D5W to US hospitals for about $1.10. Indian hospitals are happy with 100% profit on the bag, administration set, and labor.
Whaddya know. Good info.
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IMO, there will be hell to pay if the GOP short circuits the ACA without simultaneously offering alternative solutions that are economically and politically sustainable.
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