08-13-2013, 18:53
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Nation's 25 Most Dangerous Neighborhoods
An interesting list; but little unexpected on it. Some good places not to be.
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The real estate website NeighborhoodScout.com has compiled a list of the nation’s 25 most dangerous neighborhoods
It’s always important to remember that crime is neighborhood-based, and one neighborhood can be as dangerous as Nigeria and the next one as safe as Sweden, depending on a whole lot of demographic and land-use factors. My first contact with Clayton Cramer’s work was through a piece he submitted to the American Rifleman detailing the differentials in murder rates among Los Angeles-area communities. Many were quite surprising, even when two jurisdictions were just separated by a freeway.
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Table and rest of the article can be found here:
http://www.shotgunnews.com/2013/08/0...#ixzz2btshMwZg
Edit: #1 son was TDY few weeks ago to a Res Cen down in STL, things were running late, and the HMFIC of the building was telling everyone to get out of there because it was almost 1700 and they wanted everyone out of the AO. Apparently there are new pockmarks in the walls each morning....
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08-13-2013, 19:06
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Yup, if you want a safe haven go east to Gary , In.
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08-13-2013, 19:22
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I could be wrong, but from what I have read Sweden aint that safe no mo' 
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08-13-2013, 19:48
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What surprises me, is nothing on the east coast whatsoever. Would have thought LA would have been given an honourable mention.
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08-13-2013, 21:24
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Crip:
Number 5 and 8 look familiar?
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08-13-2013, 21:42
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Originally Posted by Scimitar
What surprises me, is nothing on the east coast whatsoever. Would have thought LA would have been given an honourable mention.
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That would be "west" coast..... go do pushups......
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08-14-2013, 00:54
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oops...
Thanks TR,
It's cos I'm down under this year, it messes with your internal compass don't ya know
...and that's my story and I'm sticking to it. 
That reminds of the time I hadn't slept for 48, and was being taught Land Nav by a friendly Major, failed to carry the 1 on the compass calcs and ended up taking the fair Major on a long walk 100 degrees in the wrong direction.
After more then a few miles, the patient Major spoke up and said "Son, pull your head out of your ass, and your map while your at it, and look around you."
That was the night I learnt all about Dead Reckoning.... 
No other choice really, seeing as the said Major had taken my compass as a punishment.
S
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08-14-2013, 05:41
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Baltimore did not make the list..or I looked wrong.
Or even DC.....what a toilet
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08-14-2013, 05:51
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Neighborhood?
Neighborhood?
I wonder how they picked "neighborhood" for each neighborhood?
Looking at the base maps the neighborhoods vary a great deal in size.
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08-14-2013, 05:53
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Baltimore did not make the list..or I looked wrong.
Or even DC.....what a toilet
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I'm thinking they left out all the usual suspects besides Detroit. Also, while on the topic of DC being a toilet, when you drive on DC-295 north/south around where it meets up with I-95, it actually smells like a toilet. There is the blue plains waste water treatment plant right there, and those fumes kill me during the morning/afternoon commute. DC really is the asshole of America.
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08-14-2013, 06:29
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I am betting they used census tract info to define each neighborhood.
Also, BryanK and Albeham, it would be interesting to see if any Baltimore and DC neighborhoods made the Top 100. Detroit looks to be the worst of the worst.
It also seems like DC has made some progress in cleaning up neighborhoods. Heading through DC to get to I395, I used to have to drive through an area that I not-so-fondly called Crack Alley, and a number of the walk ups there had front doors featuring shot gun blasts through them. I hardly recognize the neighborhood now. It has really cleaned up, as has the area around the Verizon Center with the growth there.
I also remember shootings of drivers on the Anacostia freeway. I haven't heard anything like that happening in quite a while.
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08-14-2013, 06:40
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I, too, was kinda surprised to not see East LA, Miami, Atlanta, South Dallas, Stockton, Richmond (CA), Oakland, and a few others on that list. And I, too, would be curious to see the top 100 or even 250 on that list.
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08-14-2013, 06:53
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Originally Posted by JHD
I am betting they used census tract info to define each neighborhood.
Also, BryanK and Albeham, it would be interesting to see if any Baltimore and DC neighborhoods made the Top 100. Detroit looks to be the worst of the worst.
It also seems like DC has made some progress in cleaning up neighborhoods. Heading through DC to get to I395, I used to have to drive through an area that I not-so-fondly called Crack Alley, and a number of the walk ups there had front doors featuring shot gun blasts through them. I hardly recognize the neighborhood now. It has really cleaned up, as has the area around the Verizon Center with the growth there.
I also remember shootings of drivers on the Anacostia freeway. I haven't heard anything like that happening in quite a while.
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They did make the top 100 according to the same website (NeighborhoodScout). Baltimore beating out DC was a surprise Top 100 most dangerous cities
DC ranks in at 46 while Baltimore ranks in at 27. I'm very happy that I do not live in that AO anymore even though it has improved over the years. Some friends and I discussed this a couple years back and we came to the conclusion that when the rent/mortgage rates went up in formerly bad areas, and the housing project properties were bought up, it essentially made the riffraff move elsewhere. Drained the pool of available dwellings so to speak. I don't have any hard data to back up that claim, but friends that still live in the area confirm our theory.
I've seen this in southern MD as well. Former DC dregs of society have now sprawled out into what were once great neighborhoods, but due to lower cost of living, they have infested these areas, and they are now screwed up. Could someone please pass the napalm?
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08-14-2013, 07:13
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Crip:
Number 5 and 8 look familiar?
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Did not realize Crip had such a good training area, it would be good to know exactly where these areas are but something tells me there are indicators.
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08-14-2013, 07:16
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It's interesting to compare the neighborhood vs city rankings.
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