Venezuela signs gun control bill

[Sdiver]

Aljazeera picked this up, but our media outlets haven't ...... Interesting.

Keep up the fight boys and girls. If Barry, DiFi, Bloomy and their minions get their way, this is where we're headed.

Bill allows prison sentences of up to 20 years for any civilian convicted of illegally carrying or selling a fire arm.

Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro signed a gun control bill into law in a bid to rein in the country's runaway violent crime.

"I hereby sign into law this gun control law, for peace in our nation," Maduro said on Friday in an address in Vargas state.

The bill will allow sentences of up to 20 years in prison for any civilian convicted of illegally carrying or selling a firearm.
It also restricts the sale of ammunition to civilians, and bans weapons from being shown in public places.

"Any arm that is confiscated will be destroyed immediately ... the sales of weapons and ammunition also ends," said National Assembly President Diosdado Cabello.

There are some exceptions: people are allowed to use weapons to protect their property and themselves when in danger, and security personnel can use them when transporting valuable items.

The bill was promoted by late president Hugo Chavez, a leftist-populist in power since 1999 who died on March 5.

The ruling socialist party, or PSUV, and two opposition parties approved the bill.

In the first quarter of 2013, there were 3,400 murders. That followed another year of bloodletting that saw about 16,000 homicides nationwide in 2012, according to government data.

There were 15 million firearms - legal and illegal - in a country of 29 million in 2009.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americ...721431960.html

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Keep up the fight boys and girls. If Barry, DiFi, Bloomy and their minions get their way, this is where we're headed.

lol I just don't see it, irregardless of the socialist BS Obama and the liberaces have foisted upon us to date. Not enough time.

We're fortunately looking at a Conservative renaissance in the 2014 elections.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Dusty

lol I just don't see it, irregardless of the socialist BS Obama and the liberaces have foisted upon us to date. Not enough time.

We're fortunately looking at a Conservative renaissance in the 2014 elections.

Dude, I wish I could believe you, but I'm not really seeing (or believing) anything like that, especially after the last election when we ALL thought that Romney was a shoe in.

Like when Barry killed OBL, I won't believe OBL's death till I see the body. "I don't want to hear OBL dead ... I want to see OBL dead !!!"

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Dusty

lol I just don't see it, irregardless of the socialist BS Obama and the liberaces have foisted upon us to date. Not enough time.

We're fortunately looking at a Conservative renaissance in the 2014 elections.

Probably not enough time to grab all the guns and complete their dreamed progressive utopia, and we will likely see an uptick in common sense and conservatism.......BUT plenty of time to divide the country even further and there is the chance that they will succeed in bringing in a new highly fertile voting block through amnesty and refugees, which they can disperse in strategic areas throughout the US.

Of the two sides of the same coin we have to battle Jebulon and the Bush Dynasty and Rove, and Bipartisan, opportunistic ass kissers like Boner, McSham, Graham, McConnell, Cornyn and Rubio.


On the opposite side of the coin, the one we are less likely to get in any meaningful number are Cruz, Paul and West.


All in all it doesn't matter because whatever they say during the run up is 99.9999999% bona fide chin bogie once the smoke clears.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Dude, I wish I could believe you, but I'm not really seeing (or believing) anything like that, especially after the last election when we ALL thought that Romney was a shoe in.

Like when Barry killed OBL, I won't believe OBL's death till I see the body. "I don't want to hear OBL dead ... I want to see OBL dead !!!"

Good points.

1. Who knew in the two years prior to the re-election that Conservative grassroots votes were being suppressed by the IRS (Obamacare's enforcement arm)?

2. IMO, UBL's been dead for over a decade.

It's a different story with gun control. There are too many liberaces who like guns.

They're targeting the civvy ammo supply. (If anybody thinks that's tinfoil, go to Midway Ammo and see how much 9mm and .45 ACP you can buy.)

[tonyz]

From the cited article.

"The bill will allow sentences of up to 20 years in prison for any civilian convicted of illegally carrying or selling a firearm."

20 years prison time...20 years...for carrying?

They're creating an incentive to just off those Marxist Venezuelan gun grabbers...prolly get 10 years with good behavior...or get away.

[Old Dog New Trick]

These are the numbers to watch as time marches on...

In the first quarter of 2013, there were 3,400 murders. That followed another year of bloodletting that saw about 16,000 homicides nationwide in 2012, according to government data.

Little change.
No change.
Increase in change.
Decrease in change.

[Go Devil]

We will never see another constitutionally aligned president of the republic again.

Ever.

The Republican Party is dead.
Anything offered with the stamp of the Republican Party will be a collaborator to the core.

The Electoral College is now owned by the communists and will continue to be so.

If you still believe that you can vote yourself out of this, go slam your head in your car door until you come to your senses.

The communist persuasion reached a tipping point 8 years ago. The winning recipe is now known.
Marxism's Useful Idiots outnumber sensibilities.

Your best option now is to breed exessively and train your offspring to be warriors.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Go Devil

We will never see another constitutionally aligned president of the republic again.

Ever.

The Republican Party is dead.
Anything offered with the stamp of the Republican Party will be a collaborator to the core.

The Electoral College is now owned by the communists and will continue to be so.

If you still believe that you can vote yourself out of this, go slam your head in your car door until you come to your senses.

The communist persuasion reached a tipping point 8 years ago. The winning recipe is now known.
Marxism's Useful Idiots outnumber sensibilities.

Your best option now is to breed exessively and train your offspring to be warriors.

Both parties and the process are little more than a charade of their former selves.

I wouldn't go as far as saying we will never see a constitutionally aligned President, but I do believe the chances are slim to none without some extreme measures. Useful idiots vs Sensibilities is about a 50/50 split and thus the end result might resemble something as we are seeing in Colorado where part of the state wishes to remove itself from the liberal cancer.

Then again it may all even out....but I wouldn't bet on it.


It will be interesting to see how it all pans out.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Go Devil

The Republican Party is dead.
Anything offered with the stamp of the Republican Party will be a collaborator to the core.

The Electoral College is now owned by the communists and will continue to be so.

If you still believe that you can vote yourself out of this, go slam your head in your car door until you come to your senses.

The communist persuasion reached a tipping point 8 years ago. The winning recipe is now known.
Marxism's Useful Idiots outnumber sensibilities.

Your best option now is to breed exessively and train your offspring to be warriors.

lol So, you're a "glass half-empty" type o' guy?

You'll feel different when we get the Senate, too.

Couple of young studs out there who could give us a good start getting out of this mess.

Don't laugh, but one of them is Jeb Bush.

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by Dusty

lol So, you're a "glass half-empty" type o' guy?

You'll feel different when we get the Senate, too.

Couple of young studs out there who could give us a good start getting out of this mess.

Don't laugh, but one of them is Jeb Bush.

I really hope you are right Bro! I can't tell you how much I hope that you are right!

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Dusty

lol So, you're a "glass half-empty" type o' guy?

You'll feel different when we get the Senate, too.

Couple of young studs out there who could give us a good start getting out of this mess.

Don't laugh, but one of them is Jeb Bush.

If Uncle Jeb and Da Party Boyz wanna go with the flow on immigration reform there will be a whole lot of people that will no longer participate in the election process.

Why, because by casting a vote you are assisting in your own demise and legitimizing their misdeeds.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Dusty

lol So, you're a "glass half-empty" type o' guy?

To mis-paraphrase Jimmy McMillan and PS.com’s ussfa344, "The glass is too damn big!”

Don't laugh, but one of them is Jeb Bush.

'Splain, por favor.

Patricio

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Paslode

If Uncle Jeb and Da Party Boyz wanna go with the flow on immigration reform there will be a whole lot of people that will no longer participate in the election process.

Why, because by casting a vote you are assisting in your own demise and legitimizing their misdeeds.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ration-reform/

Jeb Bush is trying his best to convince his fellow Republicans that immigration reform is good for the party, despite concerns among some that there is little to gain politically from allowing a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

“It’s always: immigrants don’t like Republicans. Why? Why do we assume that?” Bush lamented today at a Bipartisan Policy Center event on immigration. “Why do we assume it’s always going to be that way because it currently is that way?”

Bush is ardently making the case that Hispanic and Asian American voting patterns, which currently favor Democrats, won’t always be that way if Republicans do something about it.

According to the former Florida governor, the answer lies in creating a more optimistic, aspirational message that resonates more with recent immigrants.

“So I would argue that Republicans win when we are positive and hopeful and aspriational. And we draw people towards our cause when we do that,” Bush said. “If we just play the game that we’re for less government … that message is not aspirational, it’s not very hopeful, it’s not particularly optimistic, and we could lose.”

But if Rep. Michelle Bachmann’s warnings are any indication—that immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship will mean the end of the Republican Party—Jeb Bush has a lot of convincing to do.

“This is President Obama’s number one political agenda because he knows we will never again have a Republican president ever if amnesty goes into effect,” Bachmann told conservative website World Net Daily this week. “We will perpetually have a progressive liberal president, probably a Democrat and we will probably see the House of Representatives go into Democrat hands and the Senate will stay in Democrat hands.”

“So you’ll have a permanent liberal progressive Democrat class. And you will never again be able to see the country go back to its constitutional foundation. That’s what is at risk right now,” the Minnesota Republican continued.

Bush, who said he supports the Senate’s immigration reform plan, which prescribes a 13-year pathway to citizenship, seems to believe that cooler heads will prevail among Republicans and that the party stands a chance of winning over future recent immigrant voters.

“My guess is that the messaging will change and that we could garner significant support amongst immigrants from Africa, from Asia, from Latin America,” Bush said.

In the House, Bachmann is working hard to raise the alarm that the opposite is true. She, along with Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) and Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas), are also circulating a petition this week calling for a special conference meeting in the House that would force additional debate on an immigration bill, her office confirmed to ABC News.

It’s unclear how many House Republicans will sign the petition, but it could be an indication of how steep the climb toward a comprehensive bill– especially one with a pathway to citizenship–will be in the House.

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[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Dusty

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ration-reform/

Jeb Bush is trying his best to convince his fellow Republicans that immigration reform is good for the party, despite concerns among some that there is little to gain politically from allowing a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

“It’s always: immigrants don’t like Republicans. Why? Why do we assume that?” Bush lamented today at a Bipartisan Policy Center event on immigration. “Why do we assume it’s always going to be that way because it currently is that way?”

Bush is ardently making the case that Hispanic and Asian American voting patterns, which currently favor Democrats, won’t always be that way if Republicans do something about it.

According to the former Florida governor, the answer lies in creating a more optimistic, aspirational message that resonates more with recent immigrants.

“So I would argue that Republicans win when we are positive and hopeful and aspriational. And we draw people towards our cause when we do that,” Bush said. “If we just play the game that we’re for less government … that message is not aspirational, it’s not very hopeful, it’s not particularly optimistic, and we could lose.”

But if Rep. Michelle Bachmann’s warnings are any indication—that immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship will mean the end of the Republican Party—Jeb Bush has a lot of convincing to do.

“This is President Obama’s number one political agenda because he knows we will never again have a Republican president ever if amnesty goes into effect,” Bachmann told conservative website World Net Daily this week. “We will perpetually have a progressive liberal president, probably a Democrat and we will probably see the House of Representatives go into Democrat hands and the Senate will stay in Democrat hands.”

“So you’ll have a permanent liberal progressive Democrat class. And you will never again be able to see the country go back to its constitutional foundation. That’s what is at risk right now,” the Minnesota Republican continued.

Bush, who said he supports the Senate’s immigration reform plan, which prescribes a 13-year pathway to citizenship, seems to believe that cooler heads will prevail among Republicans and that the party stands a chance of winning over future recent immigrant voters.

“My guess is that the messaging will change and that we could garner significant support amongst immigrants from Africa, from Asia, from Latin America,” Bush said.

In the House, Bachmann is working hard to raise the alarm that the opposite is true. She, along with Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) and Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas), are also circulating a petition this week calling for a special conference meeting in the House that would force additional debate on an immigration bill, her office confirmed to ABC News.

It’s unclear how many House Republicans will sign the petition, but it could be an indication of how steep the climb toward a comprehensive bill– especially one with a pathway to citizenship–will be in the House.

Snip

Yes indeed, its a knife that cuts both ways. Damned if you , damn if you don't no way around it. This is the predicament you find yourself in after decades of playing avoid the consequences by compromising your morals and ethics.

Both parties have been playing the death by a thousand cuts game for some time now. At this point in the game they are both bleeding out. They are both going to die, it just a matter of which one keels over first and who is the last party to hold the burning bag of shit they created.

“My guess is that the messaging will change and that we could garner significant support amongst immigrants from Africa, from Asia, from Latin America,” Bush said.

The message will change as it always does, it is all about crafting it for the moment......at the next stop, in the next speech, for the next audience, etc, etc, etc.


Casting a vote for either party is like handing a heroin addict another needle so they can shoot up. Just one more fix and I promise I will quit.....