06-05-2013, 03:49
|
#1
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Red State
Posts: 3,774
|
Michelle Obama loses her cool:
__________________
Don't mess with old farts...age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill! Bullshit and brilliance only come with age and experience.
|
|
BMT (RIP) is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 04:53
|
#2
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 13,080
|
Why
"..........order federal contractors to stop discriminating against gays and lesbians in hiring.............."
I'm getting a little tired of rude folks interrupting any speaker in the name of free speech.
But with that said "Why is this even an issue?"
It's all in the counting - numbers - numbers - numbers - how many of what sub group got how many jobs.
|
|
Pete is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 05:18
|
#3
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Occupied America....
Posts: 4,740
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
"..........order federal contractors to stop discriminating against gays and lesbians in hiring.............."
|
Rephrased
"...order federal contractors to discriminate against everyone else...."
I am more interested in how the "Administration of transparency and openess" edited the exchange out of the transcript. Classic
So what is the percentage of Tofalars present in the contractor workforce? I feel they are highly under-represented. There should be special consideration for Tofalars...and those with green eyes should take precedence over others....Is there somewhere I could spend a huge amount of money to disrupt an event to promote this unsubstantiated thought?
__________________
"There are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations"
James Madison
|
|
Ret10Echo is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 05:38
|
#4
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Western New York State
Posts: 318
|
Wonder how she would have reacted if she had a shoe thrown at her.
__________________
Enlightenment comes with age. In SF we cannot wait for aged enlightenment to be successful. We need to be successful now. This means hunt out education, seek advice from experts, become an expert, and never stop learning. Never let your ego keep you from asking questions! Pass on your knowledge! (Pistol Pete)
|
|
Destrier is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 05:50
|
#5
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Harrisburg, PA
Posts: 3,834
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Destrier
Wonder how she would have reacted if she had a shoe thrown at her.
|
If it were a Ferragamo: "Ooooo! Ferragamo! Do you have that in a size 10?" 
__________________
Honor Above All Else
|
|
Trapper John is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 05:52
|
#6
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sneaking back and forth across the Border
Posts: 6,679
|
I am still confused. We have laws that say you can not discriminate against anyone for what ever reason so why do we need a new order or law that only covers this small group.
Oh do not try to debate one of the LGBT could. They are hateful no matter what you say.
|
|
SF_BHT is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 06:03
|
#7
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: central Florida
Posts: 352
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by SF_BHT
I am still confused. We have laws that say you can not discriminate against anyone for what ever reason so why do we need a new order or law that only covers this small group.
Oh do not try to debate one of the LGBT could. They are hateful no matter what you say.
|
IMO, the same as have additional laws for hate crimes -
If you commit murder, isn't that still murder, regardless of the sexual orientation, race, age, religious affiliation - because we are all created equal?
m&c
__________________
D-8450-L
|
|
medic&commo is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 06:53
|
#8
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: 18 yrs upstate NY, 30 yrs South Florida, 20 yrs Conch Republic, now chasing G-Kids in NOVA & UK
Posts: 11,901
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
But with that said "Why is this even an issue?"
|
Because..
Quote:
"First Lady threatens to leave fundraiser after lesbian protester heckles her,,
and the White House deletes exchange from official transcript"
|
Print only the news that fits that agenda.. The NewsSpeak Police hove spoken... Anything else is ThoughtCrime.
__________________
Go raibh tú leathuair ar Neamh sula mbeadh a fhios ag an diabhal go bhfuil tú marbh
"May you be a half hour in heaven before the devil knows you’re dead"
|
|
JJ_BPK is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 08:15
|
#9
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hobbiton
Posts: 1,204
|
Quote:
I am still confused. We have laws that say you can not discriminate against anyone for what ever reason so why do we need a new order or law that only covers this small group.
Oh do not try to debate one of the LGBT could. They are hateful no matter what you say.
|
I'm a pretty right wing kinda guy, but honestly I never really got involved with the gay rights issue before, until this....
I got to know this law lecturer, nice fella, seemed a mans man, one day I find out he's gay, whatever no big deal, being a church going kinda fella we give each other healthy schtick over our difference in opinion. I always liked how he was a straight up guy, (no pun intended) and not flaming in any way.
Turned out he was pretty involved with the gay lobby, so one day I ask him directly, "Hey IC, I heard that some gays want to make it illegal for me to sit my son down and tell him "Son, we live in a secular, pluralistic republic, and we respect the rights of those who disagree with us, we'll even fight for them, because the same secular pluralism that protects them, protects us, but we in no way accept the homosexual lifestyle as a choice that honors the God we worship, and it is never a valid choice in this family."
In short, his answer was, there's no way we can ever make that illegal Jack, but we can sure make it cost you.
The more I read up on this topic the more I'm realizing that in 10 years time, I will have to tell my son that this is what we believe and that he MUST keep it a secret, or daddy might loss his job, or miss out on a promotion, or little jack might not get the grades he deserves.
I'm an optimist, glass half full kinda fella, and I've looked at this every way I know how.....but frankly.....we're f***ed...
If anyone can show me different, please do, seriously...
S
__________________
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men! Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for power equal to your tasks."
-- Phillip Brooks
"A man's reach should exceed his grasp"
-- Robert Browning
"Hooah! Pushing thru the shit til Daisies grow, Sir"
-- Me
"Malo mori quam foedari"
"Death before Dishonour"
-- Family Coat-of-Arms Maxim
"Mārohirohi! Kia Kaha!"
"Be strong! Drive-on!"
-- Māori saying
Last edited by Scimitar; 06-05-2013 at 08:26.
|
|
Scimitar is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 08:33
|
#10
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hobbiton
Posts: 1,204
|
Duplicate
__________________
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men! Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for power equal to your tasks."
-- Phillip Brooks
"A man's reach should exceed his grasp"
-- Robert Browning
"Hooah! Pushing thru the shit til Daisies grow, Sir"
-- Me
"Malo mori quam foedari"
"Death before Dishonour"
-- Family Coat-of-Arms Maxim
"Mārohirohi! Kia Kaha!"
"Be strong! Drive-on!"
-- Māori saying
Last edited by Scimitar; 06-05-2013 at 15:17.
|
|
Scimitar is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 08:37
|
#11
|
|
Asset
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Tejas
Posts: 21
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by medic&commo
IMO, the same as have additional laws for hate crimes -
If you commit murder, isn't that still murder, regardless of the sexual orientation, race, age, religious affiliation - because we are all created equal?
m&c
|
There are different degrees of murder though, and while they generally deal with mens rea, they aren't all equal. I see what you mean about the issues of having a separate crime for it, but I think there's an argument for some of the penal code including sentencing guidelines based on the heinousness of the crime both in act and intent.
|
|
bandaidbrand is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 08:40
|
#12
|
|
RIP Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: The Ozarks
Posts: 10,072
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scimitar
I'm a pretty right wing kinda guy, but honestly I never really got involved with the gay rights issue before, until this....
I got to know this law lecturer, nice fella, seemed a mans man, one day I find out he's gay, whatever no big deal, being a church going kinda fella we give each other healthy schtick over our difference in opinion. I always liked how he was a straight up guy, (no pun intended) and not flaming in any way.
Turned out he was pretty involved with the gay lobby, so one day I ask him directly, "Hey IC, I heard that some gays want to make it illegal for me to sit my son down and tell him "Son, we live in a secular, pluralistic republic, and we respect the rights of those who disagree with us, we'll even fight for them, because the same secular pluralism that protects them, protects us, but we in no way accept the homosexual lifestyle as a choice that honors the God we worship, and it is never a valid choice in this family."
In short, his answer was, there's no way we can ever make that illegal Jack, but we can sure make it cost you.
The more I read up on this topic the more I'm realizing that in 10 years time, I will have to tell my son that this is what we believe and that he MUST keep it a secret, or daddy might loss his job, or miss out on a promotion, or little jack might not get the grades he deserves.
I'm an optimist, glass half full kinda fella, and I've looked at this every way I know how.....but frankly.....we're f***ed...
If anyone can show me different, please do, seriously...
S
|
Never capitulate.
Wait 'til after the '14 Congressional elections. With no IRS suppression of grassroots Conservative organizations, I think the Country will be surprised at the percentage of older and younger voters who have had enough of this strongarming.
No reason to worry, anyway. Act. If the liberaces get the House and Senate, it will be because of underhanded, chicane shenanigans, the same way they got the White House in '08 and '10.
__________________
"There you go, again." Ronald Reagan
Last edited by Dusty; 06-05-2013 at 11:00.
|
|
Dusty is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 08:59
|
#13
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hobbiton
Posts: 1,204
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusty
Never capitulate.
Wait 'til after the '14 Congressional elections. With no IRS suppression of grassroots Conservative organizations, I think the Country will be surprised at the percentage of older and younger voters have had enough of this strongarming.
No reason to worry, anyway. Act. If the liberaces get the House and Senate, it will be because of underhanded, chicane shenanigans, the same way they got the White House in '08 and '10.
|
Thanks for the pragmatism Dusty...
S
__________________
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men! Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for power equal to your tasks."
-- Phillip Brooks
"A man's reach should exceed his grasp"
-- Robert Browning
"Hooah! Pushing thru the shit til Daisies grow, Sir"
-- Me
"Malo mori quam foedari"
"Death before Dishonour"
-- Family Coat-of-Arms Maxim
"Mārohirohi! Kia Kaha!"
"Be strong! Drive-on!"
-- Māori saying
|
|
Scimitar is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 09:02
|
#14
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Location, Location
Posts: 4,073
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brush Okie
I wonder if Hillary and others that go out of political favor will be taken out of offical photo's and videos like Stalin did?
|
Only if Obama wins the 2016 election...
__________________
The two most powerful warriors are patience and time - Leo Tolstoy
It's Never Crowded Along the Extra Mile - Wayne Dyer
WOKE = Willfully Overlooking Known Evil
|
|
MR2 is offline
|
|
|
06-05-2013, 09:04
|
#15
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Location, Location
Posts: 4,073
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scimitar
The more I read up on this topic the more I'm realizing that in 10 years time, I will have to tell my son that this is what we believe and that he MUST keep it a secret, or daddy might loss his job, or miss out on a promotion, or little jack might not get the grades he deserves.
|
And how is that not illegal if not plain just unconstitutional?
__________________
The two most powerful warriors are patience and time - Leo Tolstoy
It's Never Crowded Along the Extra Mile - Wayne Dyer
WOKE = Willfully Overlooking Known Evil
|
|
MR2 is offline
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 20:46.
|
|
|
Linear Mode
