06-01-2013, 00:29
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Telling the truth about Islam may violate civil rights?
Well…., the Chicago Jesus did say “The Future must not belong to those who slander the prophet.”
How can it be slander, or violate someone’s civil rights, simply if one points out the prophet of Islam was a murdering pedophile?
So is some speech more free than other speech?
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Group sets meeting to increase tolerance of Muslims, culture
May 21, 2013 at 1:15 pm
CITY EDITOR
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“….“Public Disclosure in a Diverse Society” will be held from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. on Tuesday, June 4, at the Manchester-Coffee County Conference Center, 147 Hospitality Blvd.
Special speakers for the event will be Bill Killian, U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Tennessee, and Kenneth Moore, special agent in charge of the FBI’s Knoxville Division.
Sponsor of the event is the American Muslim Advisory Council of Tennessee — a 15-member board formed two years ago when the General Assembly was considering passing legislation that would restrict those who worship Sharia Law, which is followed by Muslims.
Killian and Moore will provide input on how civil rights can be violated by those who post inflammatory documents targeted at Muslims on social media.
“This is an educational effort with civil rights laws as they play into freedom of religion and exercising freedom of religion,” Killian told The News Monday. “This is also to inform the public what federal laws are in effect and what the consequences are.”
Killian said the presentation will also focus on Muslim culture and how, that although terrorist acts have been committed by some in the faith, they are no
different from those in other religions.
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Source: http://www.tullahomanews.com/?p=15360
Source: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/ju...by-those-.html
I suspect the top tier DOJ attorney for Tennessee, Mr. Killian, doesn’t comprehend that Islam is unique among other religions of the world, in that it has a developed doctrine, theology, and legal system that mandates warfare against unbelievers, the kafiroon.
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06-01-2013, 02:29
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So it's Freedom of Speech vs. an argument that making statements about a religion infringes on one's Freedom of Religion???
Seems off to me, IMHO.
If this precedent is set, a let of atheists are in deep shit for their posts on social media.
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06-01-2013, 06:54
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No, the atheists will be safe, this will only be applied to the Muslim faith, trust me. Much like the UN resolution about slandering religions, since Islam is the only true religion it is the only "religion" protected.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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06-01-2013, 07:14
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Wonder if someone / group will bring this to SCOTUS; to either remove it, or to make it apply to all religions?
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06-01-2013, 07:19
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England illustrates what can happen WHEN the thought police take root.
Thought Criminals Arrested after London Horror
Frontpage Mag
By Bruce Bawer
May 30, 2013
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"Ever since 9/11, every time some place or another on the planet has been struck by a major jihadist act, the mainstream media have reliably come out with stories about “backlash” against Muslims. Not accounts of actual backlash, mind you, but pieces in which various academics, public officials, Muslim leaders, and other sensitive souls have been described as wringing their hands over the dreaded possibility that some of us boorish infidels might respond to this latest action by going on the warpath against innocent Muslims. If these “backlash” articles have been such a staple of post-9/11 journalism, it’s obviously because they’ve offered the media an opportunity to focus not on the innumerable Muslim-on-infidel atrocities that have actually taken place but, rather, on hypothetical, and violent, infidel-on-Muslim responses – and thus to persist in casting Muslims in the role of victim, even while the bodies of those they have slaughtered in Islam’s name have yet to go cold."
Yet the fabled “backlash” has never really materialized – not, at least, on anything remotely resembling the scale that the media have repeatedly predicted. On the contrary, with a very small number of minor, isolated exceptions, people in the non-Muslim world have routinely responded to Muslim violence with civilized restraint. Indeed, it’s hard to think of anything that more dramatically reflects the difference between the Islamic and Western cultures than the contrast between the brutality and scale of the jihadist attacks on the West in recent years and the extraordinarily low level and modest scale of actions taken against Muslim targets in revenge. This refusal of non-Muslims to take an eye-for-an-eye approach in response to jihadist acts is a remarkable testament to the native tolerance of Christians, Jews, and other non-Muslims – and, indeed, to the black-and-white distinction between pretty much every other religion in the world and Islam, which, alone among major faiths, instructs its adherents to see offense everywhere and to respond even to the merest cartoon with murderous violence on a global scale.
"As it turned out, when the Telegraph, Mail, and innumerable smaller papers referred to a nationwide “backlash,” what they meant was not a wave of beatings, bombings, or anything like that. What they were talking about was, mostly, this: people around the United Kingdom had been exercising what they thought was their right to free speech by posting on Facebook and other social media comments that were critical of Islam. Period. And the British government – this is by far the most important part – was treating these speech acts as crimes. Why wasn’t that the headline – that British authorities were using the Rigby murder as an excuse not to finally take action against the countless Muslim “refugees,” “asylum seekers,” and so forth within its borders whom it has long known to be threats to public safety, but, rather, to clamp down on those few solid citizens who, in the wake of the murder, had dared to tweet the truth about the Religion of Peace?"
"But no: the British media were going along with the whole chilling business – reporting on criticism of Islam as if it was indeed a high crime, and reporting on the arrests of those who had engaged in such criticism as if arresting people for such acts were perfectly justifiable."
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-b...london-horror/
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Last edited by tonyz; 06-01-2013 at 09:54.
Reason: Changed "if" to "WHEN"...England is well down the road...
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06-01-2013, 07:28
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Originally Posted by longrange1947
No, the atheists will be safe, this will only be applied to the Muslim faith, trust me. Much like the UN resolution about slandering religions, since Islam is the only true religion it is the only "religion" protected.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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BINGO!!! This "attempted" federal mandate only applies to mooslims and islam. Bill Killian is dead wrong, he and the feds can go pound sand. I can't wait until the "feds" target someone on the internet. Here ya go Bill Killian, the islamic prophet muhammad preferred to have sex with camels instead of his dozens of child wives!!! Take me to court.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-...ed-165163.html
"He’s just wrong," said Floyd Abrams, one of the country's most respected First Amendment attorneys. "The government may, indeed, play a useful and entirely constitutional role in urging people not to engage in speech that amounts to religious discrimination. But it may not, under the First Amendment, prevent or punish speech even if it may be viewed as hostile to a religion."
"And what it most clearly may not do is to stifle political or social debate, however rambunctious or offensive some may think it is," Abrams said.
A conservative watchdog group, Judicial Watch, accused the Obama administration of using federal law to specifically protect Muslims from criticism.
"In its latest effort to protect followers of Islam in the U.S. the Obama Justice Department warns against using social media to spread information considered inflammatory against Muslims, threatening that it could constitute a violation of civil rights," the group wrote in a blog post.
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06-02-2013, 21:45
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The die is cast my friends. Sadly, our nation is governed by 'teams' not citizens and no end is in sight.
We are watching this charade of "immigration reform" which is really just a two party gamble over who can buy the most votes from an 11 million vote pool of ILLEGAL immigrants.
It isn't immigration reform, its the largest 'voter scam' ever in history.
...health care, religious freedoms, gun control, taxes, out of control spending.
It will be ok, I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
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06-02-2013, 22:43
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It all appears to be about Murfreesboro….., and the stifling of free speech…
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Washington….The Obama administration, for the second time in two months, interjected itself Monday into an angry local dispute over a proposed Islamic center, warning local officials that opposing the mosque could violate the civil rights of its members and become a federal crime.
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Source: http://o.seattletimes.nwsource.com/h..._mosque19.html
Here is some background info:
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In late April 2012, a Tennessee legislator held a meeting with aides to Gov. Bill Haslam. It concerned unauthorized and apparently unconstitutional moves by Bill Gibbons, Tennessee State Commissioner of the Department of Safety and Homeland Security (DSHS), establishing a partnership with a religious NGO, the American Muslim Advisory Council (AMAC) which has ties to local Muslim Brotherhood leaders via the American Center for Outreach (ACO). Gibbons was the long term District Attorney General in Memphis’ Shelby County and previously served as an aide to two former GOP Governors, Lamar Alexander and Don Sundquist.
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http://www.newenglishreview.org/cust...fm/frm/115327/
http://www.newenglishreview.org/Jerr...ct_Chronicles/
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The die is cast my friends.
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It is….
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06-03-2013, 16:44
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BRAVO TS!
"BINGO!!! This "attempted" federal mandate only applies to mooslims and islam. Bill Killian is dead wrong, he and the feds can go pound sand. I can't wait until the "feds" target someone on the internet. Here ya go Bill Killian, the islamic prophet muhammad preferred to have sex with camels instead of his dozens of child wives!!! Take me to court. "
Bravo indeed!
My reply to this screed was as follows:
"Just try, you fascist scumbags, just try!
I've got news for Obummer, Holdit and their Department of INjustice: You can all kiss my big, fat, round, red, rosy a$$. I will never, repeat NEVER, stop telling the truth about pislam while there is still breath left in my body!
You think you can win this thing? I don't think so. There are many more decent, patriotic Americans than you idiots know. This is a line in the sand that REAL Americans will not countenance.
Bring it on..."
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06-03-2013, 22:40
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does this mean i will go to jail for wearing my F#%K Mohammed tshirt?
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06-04-2013, 00:05
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One step closer to Americastan. Boiling the frog slowly. At what point do we acknowledge that Islam is intent on destroying the foundation of western society and its freedoms?
My apologies, I get angry when I see stuff like this.
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06-04-2013, 01:25
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does this mean i will go to jail for wearing my F#%K Mohammed tshirt?
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Can I order one of those?
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06-04-2013, 09:12
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does this mean i will go to jail for wearing my F#%K Mohammed tshirt?
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Or my big patch with the Crusader's Cross on it?
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06-04-2013, 10:02
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Islam forgets
Islam forgets that the Crusades were an attempt to take the Holy Land back from the Muslims who stole it to begin with.
They seem to forget a lot.
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