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Old 05-29-2013, 10:26   #1
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Yet another kid gets disciplined for bringing a toy gun to school

For those that say this country is going to hell in a hand basket, don't worry, it's already there.

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Kindergartener Disciplined for Bringing LEGO Gun the Size of a Quarter to School

The public school system continues to breed a hatred and fear of guns in the next generation of Americans. So far we’ve seen a boy suspended for chewing a breakfast pastry into the shape of a gun, a girl searched for having a piece of paper shaped like a gun, and boys suspended for “holding a pencil like a gun“.

Now we have a six year old who was given detention and forced to apologize for bringing a tiny toy gun from a LEGO set, about the size of a US quarter, to school.

According to the boy’s mother, in a letter from the school, she was told that children on her son’s bus were “traumatized” by the presence of the tiny gun.

The boy had to write an apology letter to the bus driver, as did the other student who originally yelled to the bus driver about the toy. The student who brought the toy onto the bus was also given detention (I don’t even remember there being a detention in kindergarten).

According to WGGB.com the boy’s mother isn’t too happy about how the situation was handled.

Mieke Crane is the mother of the six-year-old kindergarten student who brought the gun on the bus.

“I think they over-reacted totally. I totally do,” said Crane.

“I could see if it was you know, an air soft gun or some sort of pistol or live bullets or something. This is just a toy,” said Crane.

“At six-years-old. I don’t really think he understood the zero tolerance policy and related it to this as the same,” said Crane.

I’m honestly afraid this is how gun control and gun bans eventually come to fruition. Public schools are making children have so much contempt and fear for guns that they are unlikely to grow up to be law abiding gun owners.

I hope we can all agree this is utterly ridiculous.

Link with video .... http://gunssavelives.net/blog/kinder...ter-to-school/
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:56   #2
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So are they going through the Library and removing all photos from books of guns? It looks like it is coming. Guess we will have to rewrite history and remove all ref to guns so the children do not get traumatized. We need to toughen up and grow a pair or we will go completely down the tubes.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:01   #3
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Yet another kid gets disciplined for bringing a toy gun to school

Enough is enough!

The next "child" that brings the very "thought" of a gun to school should, in my opinion, should be crucified and summarily burned at the stake.

I think we could get some use of the "TSA's Viper squads" (mindless minions) to perform the "lynch mob" duties and enforce this all over the country. We could also enlist the "local" fusion centers and law enforcement to place "agents" in the local Toyz R Us to observe and report who is purchasing the toy soldiers, toy Lego guns, etc. All we need is the national teachers union to get behind this and we could put an end to these sort of "children" before 2016.



If I recall this is how we started "burning witches" in America..... and that was not too long ago.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:37   #4
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From the Kingsport Times News, Kingsport, TN Editorial Section today...

Editorial: Our hysteria over school shootings affects children
May 29th, 2013 7:53 am by Staff Report


• A six-year-old South Carolina girl is expelled from kindergarten after bringing a plastic toy gun to class.

• A five-year-old Pennsylvania girl is suspended for making a “terroristic threat” by bringing her bubble gun to school.

• A Virginia first-grader is suspended for pointing a finger and saying, “Pow.”


• Among “dangerous weapons” banned at some schools are nail clippers and among banned substances, Alka-Seltzer.


• Locally, reports of an armed robbery in Gray prompt the lockdown of three county schools.


• Carters Valley Elementary in Church Hill is locked down, and four squad cars respond when two persons attending a kindergarten graduation are thought to be suspicious.

• In Sullivan County, a photo of a person near a school taken by officers even though he posed no threat is nonetheless distributed to a principal, then to teachers, and then all over Facebook.

We remain on edge over school shootings, but are we more frightened than we should be? Are we overreacting to the point some innocent person could get hurt or worse by walking by a school in dark clothing?

Tough questions. But with out-of-control zero-tolerance policies turning innocent children into objects of fear and ridicule and nervous law enforcement officers unaware of what they’re really responding to, these questions need to be examined.

Violence in schools remains a very rare occurrence — 99.99 percent of the nation’s some 125,000 schools have never had a homicide, and the odds of a shooting in an elementary or middle school are about 1 in 142,000 while every day on average, eight children are killed with firearms outside schools and 32 die in accidents.

Decades ago during the Cold War, children went through “air raid drills” where they were instructed to hide under their desks or hug the walls in the event of a nuclear strike. They were too young to realize the absurdity of these drills, but since they never saw or heard about nuclear bombs falling anywhere in the U.S. thought little of them.

Today kids know what happened at Sandy Hook.

And while we want schools always to be safe and our children never to be fearful while attending them, what’s the impact of lockdowns every time someone sees something suspicious when teachers lock doors, close blinds, and usher children into a corner telling them to be very quiet?

What are we doing to innocent children caught up in adult hysteria who are sent home for absolutely innocent behavior like pointing a finger? We may be more frightened than we need to be.

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t focus on school safety in every respect and take measures to ensure it. But neither should our schools be turned into fortresses, and neither should we dispense with common sense over ridiculous policies that harm children because, for instance, they forgot to leave the nail clippers at home.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:52   #5
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I’m honestly afraid this is how gun control and gun bans eventually come to fruition. Public schools are making children have so much contempt and fear for guns that they are unlikely to grow up to be law abiding gun owners.
That's right, spunky. They don't need to worry about us, they have your children. That's the playbook; wake the f*** up.
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Old 05-29-2013, 16:05   #6
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laziness over conspiracy

The local school board enforces a Zero Tolerance policy. Basically, anyone who has drugs (even Tylenol), weapons (water guns, plastic butter knives), or fights (laying on the ground kicking upwards as several bullies kick them from above) will be expelled from school and possibly arrested.

I think teachers and administrators used to be able to individually handle the problem. "Oh, Tom is always picked on. Good for him defending himself once." Or perhaps an AP would say "Susie where did you get these cigarettes? Tell your mom to not smoke in the house around you." Now there's no motivation for anyone in positions of authority to make determinations as to what specific action should be taken in a specific case. Thus, Zero Tolerance is a godsend for them as it officially relieves them of the responsibility of dealing with children. Why decide who really is a threat versus who is just a class clown when you can work on your pet projects getting funded or working a second job while on the government dole for your primary one?

But it's a double-edged sword. If you don't enforce Zero Tolerance, then any non-action on your part that comes back in any shape or form will bite you in the ass. Because after Timmy does actually bring his dad's firearm to school, and if you never expelled Timmy previously for when he brought a box of toothpicks to school earlier that year, every child injured by Timmy's dad's gun is now your liability. Kiss a career in education down the toilet. And watch the civil suits roll in.

So what should be done? I think they need to remove Zero Tolerance and revert back to a case-by-case basis to teach children that smart adults can mesh out justice and show how due process works. But what smart adult would now want to teach with the mess education has become?
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Old 05-29-2013, 17:25   #7
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I think more QPs should follow Richard's example, and go into education after ETS or retirement. We're already qualified teachers so the transition should be seamless. This way we put a stop to this bullish!t before it gets worse. Also, when we tell little Johnny or Suzy to STFU and listen then mommy or daddy wants to come raising hell because their little angel was taught a good life lesson, then we'll be prepared to handle that situation. Just a thought.
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Old 05-29-2013, 17:26   #8
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Zero toleance is so easy for the administrators. It takes the responsibility out of their hands and they can comfortably remain in their Sgt Schultz personnae.
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Old 05-29-2013, 17:55   #9
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So! When do they outlaw the capital L and may even the P, or q for having a stunning appearance of a gun? Not pink as it is getting that stupid.
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Old 05-29-2013, 18:12   #10
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What we should be doing is suing the school system for breeding paranoia/fear. If these kids were that afraid of that little toy gun someone is brainwashing them and it NEEDS TO STOP. Their minds are too fragile at that age and it WILL affect them/form a basis for their feelings/decisions for the rest of their lives.
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Old 05-29-2013, 18:25   #11
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With a wild animal, it is generally dangerous to handle or even approach their young offspring.
It's even that way with some domesticated animals.

If you can handle an animal's young offspring as you please, it is pretty clear evidence that the animal is in total submission to you.
Tolerating government mishandling or abuse of one's offspring is a demonstration of submission.

(Tolerating things like your wives and daughters getting groped at the airport is further demonstration of submission.)
Children are taught who is really in charge (not the parents).

Many government schools have effectively turned into hostage collection centers.
They will treat your offspring however they please and dare you to do anything about it.

Taking matters into your own hands comes at a price.
It is either worth it to you, or it isn't.
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