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Old 04-23-2013, 13:37   #1
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Linux Powered Rifle

I not sure if I should cry or laugh.

Cry: This is a stupidly expensive toy that looks to have "average" accuracy.

Laugh: Because they probably have a line out the door with fools throwing money on the table to get one,, or more..

Don't get me wrong, I can see the technology coming down the road,, but these guys are a bit to proud of their toys..

Has anyone played with one??

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Bullseye from 1,000 yards: Shooting the $17,000 Linux-powered rifle
ARM CPUs, lasers, and Wi-Fi make firing this weapon an experience like no other.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/...powered-rifle/
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Old 04-23-2013, 14:08   #2
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Not sure how user friendly a rifle will be if it sends the round downrange only after further target alignment when you pull the trigger.

When I line up a target and squeeze, that firing pin better be on the way most ricky tick.
With ver 1.0, You must wait until jag-sheeple review the ROE on their ipads..

In ver 2.0, jag pulls the trigger..
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Old 04-23-2013, 14:54   #3
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Kinda takes the fun out of shooting....
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Old 04-23-2013, 15:22   #4
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Oh, I can see the skit now.

Guy tags someone beforehand. Walks up, starts talking junk. All of a sudden everyone pulls out a gun. He's busy swinging the gun around like crazy hoping he can get it to align properly for the kill shot. Meanwhile the other guy just blows his brains out.

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Old 04-23-2013, 15:26   #5
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I concour Mark46th

Not only does it takes the fun out of it but why the hell would you want something that looks like a damn video game?
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Old 04-23-2013, 15:43   #6
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I have played with a bunch of systems that is supposed to "read the winds" and correct for you. NONE ever worked in winds above that required to knock you off target. IN other words, none worked.

I have not used this system, but the system reads winds at the shooter's location, i.e., scope. Not a good idea especially if in a house shooting out. No wind to big wind. Mountains, no wind your location BIG wind down by the notch in the mountains that your bullet must fly. How about this one, and this one I have been in too many times, very small amount of wind left to right your location, BIG wind right to left mid range.

Second problem mentioned by DocIllinois, I squeeze the trigger I expect things to happen. When lock time goes up so does the rate of shooter error.

Overall, I will be form Missouri and you need to show me, and not just on a calm day at a target about 200 to 400 meters away. Those are gimmee ranges! Our students shoot 3 second head shots at those ranges.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:12   #7
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Microsoft will never let this happen.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:18   #8
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Microsoft will never let this happen.
I was thinking something along those lines too. If MS latches onto this the phrase "Blue screen of death" will take on a whole new meaning! Joking aside, if I'm not mistaken didn't a hunting ranch in Texas try this around '05 in an online hunting venture? For some reason, I recall hearing about that and how the TX Game/Wildlife Agency didn't even have laws on the books to govern "online hunting". Im working from a handheld and on the road today so I'll have to look into it later. Im curious now
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:22   #9
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As far as future tech goes, if the sniper were to deploy to the location first could he set out wifi wind sensors out at certain ranges or fly a equipped raven to deploy such sensors? That might be an accurate weapon or should there be a hand held device for the spotter to input winds and info and even mark targets that would show up in snipers scope or automatically adjust the scope?

Just askin the pros here, I just pronounced them dead after you guys took the shot.

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I always thought that a similar system should be implemented for perimeter defense around bases. Systems should be mounted on water towers, antenna tower, even watch towers.

With known distances, day/night/LLTV/IR sights, known wind, known ammo, known temperature, it seems that a remotely operated electrically driven rifle would be like the M1 tank fire control system: point and shoot.

With all of the ballistics precomputed, once zeroed in and from a stable platform, a gunner could reach out and touch someone at a kilometer or so. All weather, day night, from a bunker control room. (Yes, much like a video game).

Not that it would replace the experienced and diligent Togo security in their watchtowers, but it would help. Modern LLTV and the same logic that automates the tracking of shoplifters in a mall or card cheats at a casino should be able to pick out a group of bodies assembling in an area too close to a perimeter fence.
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I always thought that a similar system should be implemented for perimeter defense around bases. Systems should be mounted on water towers, antenna tower, even watch towers.
or mobile units??

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Automated security - just what a OBL Jr. wannabe hacker needs to turn the things around...
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As far as future tech goes, if the sniper were to deploy to the location first could he set out wifi wind sensors out at certain ranges or fly a equipped raven to deploy such sensors? That might be an accurate weapon or should there be a hand held device for the spotter to input winds and info and even mark targets that would show up in snipers scope or automatically adjust the scope?

Just askin the pros here, I just pronounced them dead after you guys took the shot.
Yes, that is how one group of charlatans got theirs to work. They put out sensors down range and read the winds at 200 meter intervals. Take care with things that send out signals though, they are like tracers, you can read them both ways.

There needs to be a device that the spotter can use to read winds ACCURATELY at all ranges. This is critical at the longer ranges, 800 and beyond. I hate to place a bunch of stuff in the shooters scope as it can become a distraction while shooting, especially if the winds are varible and he is trying to make shifts to compensate. A spotter can watch the wind changes and have the sniper fire on a change he is holding. One device was set up in quarter moa increments and that sucker was a constant buzz of movement. Told them to use quarter mil shifts and the observer can interrupte from there. I know some want the shooter to do all the work, but that is not a good way of doing business when he has to settle down to make the shot. Again I know, there will be the "I can do it", great, but most cannot and we need to set up for the most.

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There needs to be a device that the spotter can use to read winds ACCURATELY at all ranges. This is critical at the longer ranges, 800 and beyond.
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A satellite feed to the spotter scope/pda?
I'm sure there's algorithm out there already that transposes temperature/infrared scan to pressure gradient and in turn wind speed. The weather satellite and airline infrastructure should be able to provide the platform. Perhaps not in small increment but critiical spots ie. at shooter to 200m, half, then 2/3 (apogee of the trajectory? ), and at stark shift of terrain feature

Also, for that linux system to work, shooter error in trigger squeeze should be eliminated via electronic trigger. During bullseye practice, an intl pistol olympic shooter showed me that set up fr his 50m small bore. Just touch and bang
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As far as I can tell from the TrackingPoint (manufacturer) website, this thing is wholly marketed to civilians. They don't seem to be set up for government sales at all, at this time. Uses electronics components that would get torn up in the field. Nothing says the technology won't later be adopted for professional use, of course. But not in this iteration.

Seems like another entry in the "civilian operator" market. And if I hear another corny civilian use sniper lingo like "send it", I'm going to scream.
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