11-03-2004, 20:33
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Interesting map of the election
I saw this on Hannity and Colmes tonight and thought it was an interesting visual by county.
Thank God there is soooo much red!
http://www.hannity.com/
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11-04-2004, 02:43
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I have a shirt from 2000 that says "Bush Country - My America!" with the Red county map on it. I guess I'll have to get another one for 2004!
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11-04-2004, 14:28
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A slightly more, um, nuanced map. Not as dramatic, but perhaps a more accurate reflection. Shades from red to blue based on the Bush/Kerry percentages (i.e., a 50/50 tie would be pure purple).
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11-04-2004, 14:30
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11-04-2004, 22:22
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I think both maps have value. The first in that it shows rather dramatically the tremendous rural/urban divide in American politics. Compare, for example, my own state of California. Blue dots for the cities, red everywhere else.
The second is indeed a more nuanced map. It's better at showing the relative distribution of voters across America along party lines, but in one way it fails: our electoral system is an either/or proposition; you're either red or blue, with no purple in between.
We must also remember, of course, that no matter how the counties look, our presidential election is decided upon a full-state basis.
And on a petty note, it is nice to see that me and RL aren't the only Bush voters in this damn state.
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11-05-2004, 12:18
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What it does, I suppose, is show you where the fights are. Rather than thinking in terms of swing states, you look within those states for the purplest of counties/electoral districts.
You do take into account their demographics: don't waste time on a 50/50 county with only a few thousand votes like Madison County, Florida (Bush: 3,038, Gore: 3,014 to Bush: 4,196, Kerry: 4,048). Instead, go into places like Pinellas County, which accounts for about 6-7% of Florida's electorate. In 2000, Bush lost Pinellas County by 184,825 to 200,630 (and 10,000 for Nader). In 2004, Bush took Pinellas 225,627 to 225,367. They took a bluish purple county and made it pure purple. Now they have to work on making it redder. Pasco County, which was almost pure purple (Bush: 68,582, Gore: 69,564, Nader: 3,393), is now red: Bush: 103,198 to Kerry: 84,731. That's a 40,000 vote improvement in just two counties of a state won by less than 600 votes in 2000.
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11-05-2004, 18:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer
What it does, I suppose, is show you where the fights are. Rather than thinking in terms of swing states, you look within those states for the purplest of counties/electoral districts.
You do take into account their demographics: don't waste time on a 50/50 county with only a few thousand votes like Madison County, Florida (Bush: 3,038, Gore: 3,014 to Bush: 4,196, Kerry: 4,048). Instead, go into places like Pinellas County, which accounts for about 6-7% of Florida's electorate. In 2000, Bush lost Pinellas County by 184,825 to 200,630 (and 10,000 for Nader). In 2004, Bush took Pinellas 225,627 to 225,367. They took a bluish purple county and made it pure purple. Now they have to work on making it redder. Pasco County, which was almost pure purple (Bush: 68,582, Gore: 69,564, Nader: 3,393), is now red: Bush: 103,198 to Kerry: 84,731. That's a 40,000 vote improvement in just two counties of a state won by less than 600 votes in 2000.
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Actually, AL, in my experience, what you do is pick the places where you have the most red voters and do everything you can to turn them out.
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