1911 rail guns?

[Chaplain Scott]

I am strongly considering getting a 1911 rail gun, probably either Colt or Kimber. It will be used as a duty weapon. Anybody here on the forum have any experience with either?

Thanks!!

[pyreaux]

Not a fan of kimbers style of firing pin safety. After wear or if improperly timed from the factory it can release the hammer before releasing the firing pin block causing failure to fire and leaving a nice dent in the primer. Also the small pin appears to be easily damaged on mine.

[longrange1947]

I had the same problem with a colt. Not a fan of those firing pin safeties period.

[Ghost_Team]

I had a kimber custom tle II, and it was a great gun. I had a surefire x200 mounted on it and it shot accurately and reliably. I got rid of it, but I still have a springfield armory trp without a rail. I had to do a few things with it tho. The two piece extended guide rod kept loosening after some extended range time, and I couldn't use lock tite because the guide rod has to be taken apart to break down the gun. The only company I could find a one piece extended guide rod from was Wilson Combat, so I got it and it solved the problem. I also had issue with the mags that came with the gun. Frankly, they sucked. They generally either failed to feed the round all the way out of the mag or the slide completely closed without ever stripping the round. Enter wilson combat mags, and the problem was solved. It's now a very accurate gun that shoots whatever I load into it and functions perfectly.

[mdpatterson]

I have quite a few ranging from standard models to complete customs. For the money, the TRP Operator (Not the regular TRP) is the best quality in my experience. It performs just as well as my higher end customs at half the cost. Just my opinion, but definitely worth checking out if you haven't already.

Mike

[Chaplain Scott]

Thanks for the info guys!! Yeah, I'd really like a Wilson, but unlike our present administration, I realize that there are practical limits for my budget

[swatsurgeon]

I have the Springfield operator and that was my carry weapon with MCSO. It never had any issues through the 4-5k of rounds down it with a sure fire x- 300 mounted on it

[DJ Urbanovsky]

I've had nothing but trouble with Kimber. Feedway stoppages (even with Wilson mags). Slide stop walking out. Barrel bushing taking a trip down range. Sold it and bought a Glock. Zero issues there.

Also had problems with STI. $60 mags that, out of the box, like to squirt rounds out. Doublefeed city. Also, unable to load mags to stated capacity. With vetted mags, the gun was awesome, but it was just too massive for CCW.

Never had an issue with a Springfield. Nor with any of my Glocks. Regardless of caliber or whether I had a light mounted or not.

[TacOfficer]

I've carried Sig P220 DAK for almost ten years on duty. Never had a malfunction.

[Team Sergeant]

I carried a 1911 for decades and I never had one that worked without malfunctions. To this day I love all the drills we did to remediate all the malfunctions the 1911 is capable of..... In my opinion they are nothing more than boat anchors and should be treated as such. There's hundreds of better weapons out there. Do your own research or I hope you have picked out a gunsmith for your new 1911 purchase. 1911 it was state of the art 101 years ago......

Carrying "cocked and locked", it's so cliché. Ever wonder why there's no one out there designing a handgun (besides the 1911 clones) that is carried cocked and locked? Enjoy.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I carried a 1911 for decades and I never had one that worked without malfunctions. To this day I love all the drills we did to remediate all the malfunctions the 1911 is capable of.....

I used to be surprised if I got through a session with a 1911 without having some type of failure to (whatever). With HK, I'd be stunned to experience a single instance.

I think that's why Glock took over for the LEO world after Miami-an autoloader that nearly always functions.

I haven't kept up with the CAG guys for a long time, but I'd think they'd switch over at some point from the 1911 system (if they haven't already).

[koz]

Originally Posted by Dusty

I haven't kept up with the CAG guys for a long time, but I'd think they'd switch over at some point from the 1911 system (if they haven't already).

Several years ago, they switched to Glocks. Guys still have 1911's but they don't work well in the desert...

[tom kelly]

This particular pistol was developed for SOCOM on an RFP. Basically it is a .45 ACP with stringent operational requirements demanded for a combat handgun. Accuracy is comparable to custom-built match pistols. The pistol was tested for accuracy after firing over 30,000 rounds, the specified service life of a pistol; this would be 600 50 round boxes of .45 ACP ammunition at @ $29.00/box total cost would run @ $ 17,400. The pistol has a 5.87 inch threaded barrel & according to the Technical people at Heckler & Koch (in Columbus GA.) Knight's Armament is the only sound suppressor ever tested with this pistol. The pistol does not come with night sights but you can have them added . As with most products from Heckler & Koch they are expensive & usually not available...Iam sure their are other OP's on this site have better info on this weapon system than I do & I would appreciate any comments they have to offer.
Regard's.....Tom Kelly

[Richard]

I like the Sig 229R in .40 S&W - however, I'll gladly use whatever is at hand when I need it.

Richard

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by koz

Several years ago, they switched to Glocks. Guys still have 1911's but they don't work well in the desert...

Thanks for the info. Makes sense.

I've had 2 19's, a 17, a 22 and a 30 over the years, but never kept them more than a few months, because I couldn't get used to the trigger. I don't ever remember any of KB's or failures to function, but I just didn't spend enough time to get used to them.

I plan on getting a Sig 239 DA/SA when one becomes available.

(Not to hijack away from 1911 rail guns...)