04-01-2013, 07:33
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Toxic Leaders Will Be Fired
And the CSA is on the hunt for toxic leaders; is their time finally coming to an end or...?
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Odierno To Soldiers: Toxic Leaders Will Be Fired
ArmyTimes, 1 Apr 2013
Battalion and brigade commanders will soon receive 360-degree evaluations as part of the Army’s continuing push to rid the ranks of toxic leaders.
http://www.armytimes.com/prime/2013/...fired-040113w/
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04-01-2013, 13:06
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maybe this should also happen at the general officer level.
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04-01-2013, 13:19
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How is he going to fire himself?
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04-01-2013, 13:19
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It should expand into the political leadership as well.
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04-01-2013, 13:42
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Damn Armytimes...I guess they don't know information should be free!
FREE I TELL YA!
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04-01-2013, 14:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SF18C
Damn Armytimes...I guess they don't know information should be free!
FREE I TELL YA!
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Here ya go Brother!
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04-01-2013, 16:05
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It should expand into the political leadership as well.
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Originally Posted by airbornediver
maybe this should also happen at the general officer level.
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Absolutely correct.
This topic plays right into, "How America Lost Its Four Great Generals" thread.
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04-01-2013, 17:30
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Originally Posted by airbornediver
maybe this should also happen at the general officer level.
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First place I would look.
Can the CSA really fire the CJCS though?
TR
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04-01-2013, 18:53
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Let me guess - the first "toxic leader" to be fired will be the poor bastard with the personal and professional integrity to enforce standards that interfere with the "gender neutral" political agenda of the current administration.
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04-01-2013, 19:46
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Sounds too much like a political purge to me.
I catch myself saying "Glad I'm out." a lot these days.
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04-02-2013, 16:54
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Thanks for posting the PDF. So these courses that the LTC thought of are for general officers. Looks like someone is gonna make 06.
But it does seem that they're looking at COLs and GENs, we'll see if that actually happens.
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04-02-2013, 17:50
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Patton's spinning.
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