02-20-2013, 19:21
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Sports Illustrated Racism...
I think that I have had my fill for one lifetime of liberal race-baiting, perceived slights to minorities, and the "where's Waldo?" dissection of photos, cartoons, and literature to "find racism"...cue Toure' Neblett and Harry Belafonte to start beating the race drum...
Racists
More Racists
To all liberals...PM me and I will give you my address so that you can drive over and line up at my front door to be throat-punched...
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02-20-2013, 19:30
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Yep, me too. Un-fair.org campaign sealed the deal for me.
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02-20-2013, 20:43
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What the hell is wrong with people?
First some nonsense about Kate Upton being too chunky for the cover of SI, now they're being racist. Can't some people just sit back and relax for 5 goddam' minutes while they drool over some hot babes on a magazine?
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02-20-2013, 23:01
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There's people in the photos other than the model?
Never noticed.
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02-21-2013, 14:18
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Some people are awfully sensitive these days...
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02-21-2013, 14:31
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Originally Posted by DJ Urbanovsky
Some people are awfully sensitive these days...
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That’s cause some folks aint seen real racism in a while!
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02-21-2013, 15:32
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Yep, me too. Un-fair.org campaign sealed the deal for me.
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You mean these folks? (warning: the unfaircampaign.org site may pop your "blocked site" banner on a .gov computer, so it might be considered NSFW)
WTF?
Recent news on the Unfair Campaign...
http://newsone.com/2237396/unfair-campaign-psa/
You have to love a website that is dedicated to making my life one long "mea culpa" for having been born white...
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02-21-2013, 15:45
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Who makes the call as to what is or isn't racism?
Does the fact that many forms of easily identifiable racism are no longer in vogue mean that we've turned some sort of a corner?
Or does it mean racism in American culture is taking different forms that are all the more nefarious because they're expressed subtly?
If Sports Illustrated photographers were to show up at a location where young American girls congregate--i.e. where yourdaughters, nieces, and other kinfolk are--and wanted to take some photos of scantily clad women along side of those girls, what would the reaction be?
On a more serious note, I'm personally alarmed that members of this BB would so quickly poo poo the criticism without doing more in depth research. We've been gift wrapped a reason to look closely at every SI swimsuit issue. Our concerns with the implications of "political correctness" (what ever that is) should not cause the kind of rush to judgment that keep us from looking at hundreds of photos of very good looking women wearing very little.
My $0.02.
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02-21-2013, 16:04
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Seriously
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
...........If Sports Illustrated photographers were to show up at a location where young American girls congregate--i.e. where yourdaughters, nieces, and other kinfolk are--and wanted to take some photos of scantily clad women along side of those girls, what would the reaction be?................
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Seriously? School Girls? Maybe school age girls but they look more to me like some sort of cultural dance team. As such I would guess they've been photographed with lots of odd people.
So a person going overseas and having a picture taken of a local and themself is now racist?
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02-21-2013, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
Who makes the call as to what is or isn't racism?
Does the fact that many forms of easily identifiable racism are no longer in vogue mean that we've turned some sort of a corner?
Or does it mean racism in American culture is taking different forms that are all the more nefarious because they're expressed subtly?
If Sports Illustrated photographers were to show up at a location where young American girls congregate--i.e. where yourdaughters, nieces, and other kinfolk are--and wanted to take some photos of scantily clad women along side of those girls, what would the reaction be?
On a more serious note, I'm personally alarmed that members of this BB would so quickly poo poo the criticism without doing more in depth research. We've been gift wrapped a reason to look closely at every SI swimsuit issue. Our concerns with the implications of "political correctness" (what ever that is) should not cause the kind of rush to judgment that keep us from looking at hundreds of photos of very good looking women wearing very little.
My $0.02.
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02-21-2013, 16:27
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I wonder
I wonder just how many world travelers have had their picture taken with The Naked Cowboy?
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02-21-2013, 17:06
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
Who makes the call as to what is or isn't racism?
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I believe the current Board of National Race-Baiters is occupied by Al Sharpton, Madcow, Schultz, and Jim Clyburn.
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
If Sports Illustrated photographers were to show up at a location where young American girls congregate--i.e. where yourdaughters, nieces, and other kinfolk are--and wanted to take some photos of scantily clad women along side of those girls, what would the reaction be?
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Did Sports Illustrated make those girls get into the frame? Were their parents unaware of their participation?
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02-21-2013, 17:15
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Hope this is coherent
Societal issue I liken to 'A Message To Garcia'. Most people don't just do anymore. Most Americans believe what they're fed from the Tube because it's easier than thinking.
Today's Americans believe they're owed something from society. That their mere existence graces us all with meaning. I believe this is the root of the issue of this article.
Racism will exist as long as we allow it to. It is my belief from learning what I have about American History, that this nation was founded on a hate of the 'minions'. Meaning most of us, regardless of color, have been oppressed by the elite based on our monetary value. Racism was solidified by the controlling upper class to control the masses. They used it to create a diversion; to divide us. Black from White. I am a white man who hates Obama. Does that make me racist? Nope! But I guarantee you that I'd be labeled a racist if I made that proclamation at the local Wal Mart. (You'd never find me at Wal Mart by the way)
United We Stand, Divided We Fall.
To make matters worse, we offer our children media that detracts their attention away from nature, that makes them less sociable, and ultimately less responsible. I am just as guilty as most parents of this. We live in a media crazed world that makes the average person more interested in what's happening with the Kardashians than it does with their own family. TV, Internet, Radio, and Newspaper are all things we must be keenly aware of that are there for distraction. The most recent debates over gun control have proven to me that the media is there with one primary purpose; distraction.
Problem is, the majority of Americans are the polar opposite of The Matsigenka so they wouldn't know what to do with useful information if it was given to them.
What I am trying to say is that racism is now deeply rooted in our society, and media (Sports Illustrated, TV, etc) serves little purpose other than entertainment and more importantly, distraction. It's mostly one sided and has a powerful influence over the majority of this country.
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02-21-2013, 17:31
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Did Sports Illustrated make those girls get into the frame? Were their parents unaware of their participation?
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When you find answers to your questions, you might also ask yourself about the nature of consent in the entertainment industry and how the people producing content push agreements so that they get stretched.
If one signs a release without being fully informed of that document's implications, and one doesn't have the resources to protect one's interests (e.g. an agent, a manager, and an attorney) is one actually consenting or is one being co-opted? That is, does the fact that something is legal mean that it is right?
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02-21-2013, 17:41
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Who makes the call as to what is or isn't racism
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That's a good question....maybe the media and special interest groups make the call on the ever evolving definition of racism. By next week it will be frowned upon to say Taco Bell.
The kids are dressed colorful traditional attire and appear to have joyful smiles on their faces. The model isn't(for example)holding a noose, there is no burning cross in the background and there is no racial epitaph to be seen.
I don't see the link...
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