02-01-2013, 08:17
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Feds seized nearly 1,500 guns in raid
So DHS raids a guy in New Mexico they have been watching for years, DHS confiscates over 1500 firearms and no one has been charged with a crime.
For the safety of the children in mind, why in the hell would DHS perform a raid during school hours? Surely DHS was aware that a raid during school hours would create a lock down situation and create panic in the community?
The initial report is here:
http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/r...ords-from-home
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“My wife called me that they had locked down Montezuma School,” a concerned father, who did not want to be identified, said. “I rushed over here. The first thing you think of is another shooting or something.”
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I wonder why that is?
The follow up report is here:
http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/f...0-guns-in-raid
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One neighbor who did not want to be identified said it was a shock.
“I didn’t really see the guns but from a distance," the neighbor said. "I saw them being pulling them out into the front yard.
“Its very scary in the fact that the school is so close by makes it seem even more dangerous.”
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Why would you think like that?
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02-01-2013, 08:30
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School hours coincides with working hours and the DHS agents needed to be off by 3pm....
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02-01-2013, 08:41
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Od timing for the raid. You'd think an outfit like DHS would be used to operating in the dark.
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02-01-2013, 08:55
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If you watch the vid it demonstrates several shotguns, rifles, and antique's. I guess brown (wooden stocks) is the new black (evil plastic Fienstien jewelry).
Additional comments indicate that the owner of the house is a licensed dealer/ collector. Love to see how this resonates.
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02-01-2013, 09:25
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Od timing for the raid. You'd think an outfit like DHS would be used to operating in the dark. 
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oh...they're operating in the dark alright....
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02-01-2013, 09:31
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Additional comments indicate that the owner of the house is a licensed dealer/ collector. Love to see how this resonates.
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Yeah - BUT...
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Federal investigators confirm that. However, they're also investigating him for possible gun smuggling, tax evasion and violating importation laws.
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02-01-2013, 10:00
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02-01-2013, 13:57
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I would think that if the govt. were to come into my house and confiscate my property that they would have charges in hand and not just an ongoing investigation. How long before gun owners are banned from owning and storing firearms within X amount of feet of a school? The neighbors statement was ridiculous.
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02-01-2013, 14:40
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I guess brown (wooden stocks) is the new black (evil plastic Fienstien jewelry).
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Are you telling me I flipped for XXX Bastogne Walnut furniture and that's in the new AWB too?!?!
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02-01-2013, 18:18
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Are you telling me I flipped for XXX Bastogne Walnut furniture and that's in the new AWB too?!?!

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Unless you can prove it is pre-ban wood.
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02-01-2013, 18:27
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Could it be DHS was encouraged to conduct this raid during these hours in order to achieve maximum exposure, having the school locked down, etc..., so more attention could be drawn toward government regulation, intervention, and their gun control agenda?
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02-01-2013, 18:37
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Could it be DHS was encouraged to conduct this raid during these hours in order to achieve maximum exposure, having the school locked down, etc..., so more attention could be drawn toward government regulation, intervention, and their gun control agenda?
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02-01-2013, 18:40
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Isn't New Mexico a "blue state"???
I bet the those Evil Wooden Rifles (*EWRs) were probably bound for Chicago on the Obama Fast-n-Furious express.
See I can play the smear game too!
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02-01-2013, 18:45
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I'm just sayin'... If they think anything like our local sheriff "moonbeam"...I wouldn't put it past some in office right now.
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02-01-2013, 18:51
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This is great. They will quit poaching our cases and go after the BATF side since it has a Higher visability with the new Gun debate going on.
They do coordinate Opns for the best Media effect. Been watching from the front row for 5 years and it is part of their daily play book. No Tin Foil here just facts.
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