SecDef allows women in combat jobs

[Streck-Fu]

I guess they must be referring to Infantry and other currently designated Combat Arms roles as women already serve in a variety of positions that are exposed to combat.

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Senior defense officials say Pentagon chief Leon Panetta is removing the military's ban on women serving in combat, opening hundreds of thousands of front-line positions and potentially elite commando jobs after more than a decade at war.

The groundbreaking move recommended by the Joint Chiefs of Staff overturns a 1994 rule banning women from being assigned to smaller ground combat units. Panetta's decision gives the military services until January 2016 to seek special exceptions if they believe any positions must remain closed to women.

[glebo]

I get the "equality" thing, but I wonder who is actually pushing for this. Womens groups who will never even be in a combat situation, just to push their agenda, or is actually driven by women who are serving.....and it would actually be their butts on the line???

[griper23]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/panet...at-roles-women


this will be good.

[trvlr]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2535954.html

It looks like the real deal.

We should now be able to double our selective service numbers and make one streamlined physical fitness test that ensures troops will be able to carry their buddies to a casualty collection point in full kit.

[Pete]

If the Standards remain the same then no problem.

If the Standards are normed into male & female standards then the bottom level standards for doing the job were lowered.

If they are lowered to allow females in then why would males have to meet a higher standard?

[Bechorg]

Allowing females on ODA's would be a detriment to the teams ability to conduct its mission. It creates an extremely weak member of the team and that weak link is all it takes to put everyone in jeopardy.

If I got shot on a remote mountaintop this female better be able to climb up that mountain in full kit, pick my ass up, and carry me down the mountain. This is not an extreme example, I know men who have done it. Bottom line is that it cannot be done. No woman can pick up 220 pounds and carry it for extended distance. This isn't limited to SF, it occurs in all of the combat arms and you cannot allow them in any of them if this situation exists.

KILL THIS IDEA NOW!

[SF_BHT]

Originally Posted by Pete

If the Standards remain the same then no problem.

If the Standards are normed into male & female standards then the bottom level standards for doing the job were lowered.

If they are lowered to allow females in then why would males have to meet a higher standard?

Pete

I agree. Do not change the standards. If they can make it just like you and me then go for it.

[DIYPatriot]

“It will take awhile to work out the mechanics in some cases. We expect some jobs to open quickly, by the end of this year. Others, like Special Operations Forces and Infantry, may take longer,” a senior defense official explains. Panetta is setting the goal of January 2016 for all assessments to be complete and women integrated as much as possible.

The Pentagon has left itself some wiggle room, however, which may ultimately lead to some jobs being designated as “closed” to women. A senior Defense official says if, after the assessment, a branch finds that “a specific job or unit should not be open, they can go back to the secretary and ask for an exemption to the policy, to designate the job or unit as closed.”

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[Richard]

How many threads we gonna start on this same topic and how many times we gonna rehash the same opinions?

Sounds like a monthly SFA breakfast gathering.

Just sayin'...

Richard

[Dusty]

After seeing Julie Golob shoot, I say, "Welcome aboard!"

(As long as the standards aren't modified.)

[PRB]

Like most things it will depend upon the implementation....lets see what develops...then we can start pissing in someones cornflakes.

[ddoering]

Originally Posted by Dusty

After seeing Julie Golob shoot, I say, "Welcome aboard!"

(As long as the standards aren't modified.)

Until one files a complaint saying the standards are prejudiced against women. Remember how SF was prejudiced against minorities because of the swim test......

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by ddoering

Until one files a complaint saying the standards are prejudiced against women. Remember how SF was prejudiced against minorities because of the swim test......

Understood, but the point I was trying to make is that, as long as it's understood that women have to meet the same standards as men-going in-with no grey areas-they should be allowed to join the club.

Now, I personally don't know, nor have I heard of, a female who can meet the same standards as a male BASED ON WHEN I WENT THRU THE Q COURSE.

I don't know how it is, now-been out of it for too long, and I suffer from Partzheimer's, anyway. (As well as clinical aggravation complex stemming from the actions of libdemons.)

[Stiletto11]

I want to see one poop in an ORP.

[Panamazach]

Absolutely amazing.

Next Executive Order of Business, Women can pee standing up.

Equality for all!!!