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Old 01-16-2013, 11:34   #1
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White House Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions

Delivered today at noon EST.

Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions

Today, the President is announcing that he and the Administration will:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

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Old 01-16-2013, 11:46   #2
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Armor-piercing

I see Armor-piercing ammunition is being talked about.

So all you hunters had better watch out.

Also long on the mental stuff. I told all you PTSD folks years ago you'd better watch out.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:53   #3
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The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
To include the VA no doubt!
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
Yes get rid of the HIPAA laws, cause we gotta know if you have gonorrhea before you get a gun!
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
You mean threaten to withhold more of the tax money paid by the citizen of that state? (Arizona, you guys are screwed!)
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
Like Vets!!!
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
One more bullshit hurdle to use so they can keep “stolen” guns!
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
Like that will help!
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
Right after we teach kindergarteners how to put condoms on cucumbers!
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
I knew some one was going to make a dollar off this…all your gun safes won’t meet standards, got to buy new ones!
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
Like in Fast-nFurious?
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
See #9
11. Nominate an ATF director.
They are probably better off with out one!
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
Like weapons training?
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
Like enforcing all those laws we have?
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
I doubt drugs and pharmaceuticals will even be part of the equation. Their answer is already defined…know they just need to work on HOW to formulate the question so it matches the answer….take away guns!
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
Oh this is promising…let’s make new guns!
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
They gotta fix Obama care?
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
Duhhhh
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
Kinda like the NRA asked for??? I hope the media makes fun of O for this one!
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
Please tell us how to react to an emergency , cause we won’t be able to figure it out on our own!
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
I thought Obama care was suppose to answer all our health care needs?
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
No issue with this one, Texas aint implementing the ACA exchanges!
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
Should this be number on one on the list?
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
Three crazy people sittin’ in a room to figure out how to deal with everyone else!


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2IA2etyKA

All that damn hoopla over nothing...that guy couldn’t lead ants to a picnic!
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:00   #4
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Thanks, Richard.

Subjective regarding mental health...

Looking for 10 round mags or less, ammo and AR restrictions to come up.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:07   #5
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infrickincredible...

http://www.wral.com/obama-unveils-50...kage/11987200/

This is a snippet from the 7th paragraph....



"This is the land of the free and the home of the brave, and always will be," Obama said, acknowledging the right to possess and bear firearms. "But we've also long realized ... that with rights come responsibilities."


I got an idea....how about the gov't take responsibility for the laws we already have on the books and enforce them to the fullest extent.....instead of all this plea bargain crap that lets someone out in 3 mos. VS the many yrs they should've served......
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:14   #6
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Thank you Richard for synopsizing in a thread.

Bad Shakespeare.

The AP thing is stupid (and largely redundant) because gun-free-zone murder victims are all up-armored. M2 stuff has largely been the only stuff in large circulation anyway because it was the general battlefield round of the time. This was a nod to the LE, who don't fancy running into Walt Kowalski's Garand.

I wonder if his sycophants understand how little he really did (besides outright lie several times).
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:20   #7
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from Richard's .pdf

Quote:
Encourage the development of innovative gun safety technology: Despite
rapid advances in technologies in recent years, there are few readily available
firearms that utilize these new technologies to help guard against unauthorized
access and use. The President is directing the Attorney General to work with
technology experts to review existing and emerging gun safety technologies, and
to issue a report on the availability and use of those technologies. In addition,
the Administration will issue a challenge to the private sector to develop
innovative and cost-effective gun safety technology and provide prizes for those
technologies that are proven to be reliable and effective.
I can see it now "MS Safe-Gun™ has encountered a fatal error. Do you wish to reboot?"

Oh wait, there are prizes?
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:25   #8
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I can see it now "MS Safe-Gun™ has encountered a fatal error. Do you wish to reboot?"

Oh wait, there are prizes?
Smells like Solyndra...
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Old 01-16-2013, 14:09   #9
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My thoughts:

1) We know admin and specifically pres has anti gun agenda.

2) Admin will seize upon actual events, or engineer them to push their agenda. “Never let a crisis go to waste” and all that.

3) CT happened, and admin is like “Yes! We took this election, we’ve got the power, this event just went down, let’s use it to do this gun control thing now!” It was not even 48 hours later when Feinstein and co were in front of the cameras like the ghouls they are.

4) BHO took his photo ops, and then stepped up to the mic and opened his big yap. Along with the rest of the usual antis.

5) This was a big mistake, because as it turns out, at least on this issue, our lawmakers do not have the support of the people.

6) The people demonstrated this lack of support by voting with their pocketbooks across the nation. BHO = gun salesman of the decade, at least. Nearly THREE MILLION NICS checks in the past month? And that doesn’t count FTF sales. http://weaponsman.com/?p=6482

7) The people demonstrated this lack of support by contacting their representatives in droves. And everybody is talking about this, even people who aren’t part of the culture. Added bonus - we have found out who some of the Benedict Arnolds among our elected representatives are. Remember this, and during the next election cycle, vote and remove those people from office.

8) Representatives want to keep their cushy jobs in DC. Say “We can’t/won’t sign off on this.” The only ones who would are those with the support from their nanny state constituents already, and the aforementioned turncoats. Nanny state reps lose nothing. Everybody else is in danger of getting fired.

9) Admin (and specifically pres) realizes they’ve lost this fight on actual legislation this time, but they can’t look weak and just slink away into the dark – so what’s happening now is their version of trash talking while walking away after they just got their asses kicked. “Mustn’t look weak. Weak = meat. Must look as if actually doing something.” Then yells the loud funny words. “Next time Imma kick your ASS!!!” And that’s what these EOs are. The act of an impotent, impudent buffoon who didn’t get his way, and who just got his dick knocked in the dirt. He has to do this so that his tribe doesn't eat him.
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Old 01-16-2013, 14:28   #10
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Delivered today at noon EST.

Gun Violence Reduction Executive Actions

Today, the President is announcing that he and the Administration will:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

Richard
OK, I may be a formerly blonde chic, but aren't the items highlighted things that are already on the books? If the highlighted things aren't already being done, someone's head should roll! Are you kidding me that he stated the need for law enforcement to trace weapons used in crimes. DUH
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OK, I may be a formerly blonde chic, but aren't the items highlighted things that are already on the books?

But now he is emphaiszing that they need to be done better....


Did I need more pink?
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OK, I may be a formerly blonde chic, but aren't the items highlighted things that are already on the books? If the highlighted things aren't already being done, someone's head should roll! Are you kidding me that he stated the need for law enforcement to trace weapons used in crimes. DUH
It may interest you to know that it's not uncommon in cases of a clear self-defense incident for the (now exonerated) actual victim to have to pursue lengthy legal action to get the return of THEIR own property, to wit: their firearm. It is very seldom a part of the judgement, or determination that no charges need be brought.

So you shoot scumbag, it gets adjudicated through the local ADA as a defensible shoot, and they run a background check on you and you are in some new category based on the AG's direction from #4 and they still can't release it. These things are a kluge because they're listening to people who have no clue WTF they're talking about.

My fallback is simple like TS':
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It may interest you to know that it's not uncommon in cases of a clear self-defense incident for the (now exonerated) actual victim to have to pursue lengthy legal action to get the return of THEIR own property, to wit: their firearm. It is very seldom a part of the judgement, or determination that no charges need be brought.

So you shoot scumbag, it gets adjudicated through the local ADA as a defensible shoot, and they run a background check on you and you are in some new category based on the AG's direction from #4 and they still can't release it. These things are a kluge because they're listening to people who have no clue WTF they're talking about.

My fallback is simple like TS':
No.
FWIW, B&B Guns (the guys that "loaned" the LAPD the ARs used in the North Hollywood shootout) never got the guns back. They ended up going bankrupt from the lawsuits. I was a customer.

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This whole thing has been an excellent diversion from Benghazi.
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