12-24-2012, 00:05
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NY paper publishes the names and addresses of weapons owners
Gents,
I wish to first apologize about the language, but ..... THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT !!!!!! 
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December 23rd 2012 a New York Newspaper Printed the names and addresses of every Licensed Pistol Permit holder in two Counties and another County is being posted shortly! This is a massive privacy breach and the latest in a series of over the top emotional reactions to the latest shooting tragedy in Sandy Hook CT meant to intimidate the lawful and prey on peoples fears to exploit the gun grabbing agenda.
In an article title “The gun owner next door: What you don’t know about the weapons in your neighborhood” the paper linked to an interactive map titled: “Map: Where are the gun permits in your neighborhood?” where you can search neighborhoods to see who received a legal permit to own a hand gun license listed by name and address.
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Link with active map ....
http://amiglobalsecurity.com/breakin...-print-online/
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If anyone of the above listed peoples weapons were to be stolen and then used in a crime, would the newspaper be considered an accomplish or would they fall back on their 1st amendment rights ???
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12-24-2012, 06:13
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Well
Well - I think BS also.
But - I wonder just how it would work in the long term? Would the break in rate now become higher - or lower for the CC homes?
Statistics.
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12-24-2012, 06:18
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Here in Western NY, all our neighbors are armed.
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12-24-2012, 06:47
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It could go both ways for the criminal minded...
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Originally Posted by Pete
Well - I think BS also.
But - I wonder just how it would work in the long term? Would the break in rate now become higher - or lower for the CC homes?
Statistics.
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1. Why break into a home where you know the homeowner is armed?
2. Why not break into a home where you know the homeowner is unarmed?
Stay safe.
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12-24-2012, 07:08
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Gun Activists
Well, some Gun Activists in that area could screen the list and see who from the local "newspaper/news" folks aren't on the list and put their names and addresses up on a billboard.
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12-24-2012, 07:11
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A Bloomington, IN newspaper did the same thing a few years ago and it was republished by the Indianapolis Star. Only they published the address of CCW holders. It cause quite a stink and they lost a lot readers because of it. Not that they had many readers to lose..... 
That was extreme BS as well.
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12-24-2012, 07:35
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Total BS, the local paper here in Iowa lists by county the new permit holders name and also renewels but no addresses, this might embolden them.
It might also be comforting for those who do not have permits to know if the guy next door has one. This is just the beginning.
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12-24-2012, 07:44
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If they are trying to intimidate gun owners that is a strange way to go about it. Find out the editors home address and legally drive down there with your guns in plain sight and park in front of his house.
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12-24-2012, 07:59
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I really liked QP Pete's thought. Someone really should do that.
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12-24-2012, 08:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy
1. Why break into a home where you know the homeowner is armed?
2. Why not break into a home where you know the homeowner is unarmed?
Stay safe.
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Or (criminal logic here) - if someone owns a firearm and is not allowed to keep it on his/her person, why not wait around for them to leave their house and break in if you know you are likely to find/gain a firearm for your effort?
The paper would be an accessory to burglary IMHO.
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12-24-2012, 09:52
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Or (criminal logic here) - if someone owns a firearm and is not allowed to keep it on his/her person, why not wait around for them to leave their house and break in if you know you are likely to find/gain a firearm for your effort?
The paper would be an accessory to burglary IMHO.
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That happened to me - someone waited until my wife & I left for work, broke in & stole all my firearms & electronics.
They were watching, waiting for the opportunity.
Sucks, because I lost a Serbu BFG50 & Supermatch M1A, among others.
m&c
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12-24-2012, 10:26
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Tacky - but it is a matter of "public" record.
Richard 
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12-24-2012, 10:31
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Tacky - but it is a matter of "public" record.
Richard
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How about a list of people who are HIV positive?
Could that be printed?
TR
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12-24-2012, 12:10
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Seems there was an instance awhile back in OH (?) of an abuse victim who'd relocated, secured a permit, and estranged beater tracked her down via such an article. As the Dixie Chicks said, he "marched right through that restraining order and put her in intensive care." (Don't know if his name was Earl or not.)
Just because you can [publish], doesn't mean you should.*
* WI allows only release of statistics to other than LE (and then when in the course of an active investigation); was specifically made a part of the law here to prevent just this sort of krap.
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12-24-2012, 12:16
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Tacky - but it is a matter of "public" record.
Richard
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Actually, it's dependant on the State. You cannot publish this information in Texas.
In any case, I'm not a fan. I believe the 'concealed' aspect of carrying should remain concealed by both the State and the licensee. Outing licensees places unwarranted scrutiny on otherwise law abiding people and may impact how others behave when they are present. Concealment provides options; when or if intervene in a given situation and a potential tactical advantage if you do (surprise! it's my favorite). Concealment works best when both the firearm and the knowledge that the person is carrying a firearm remain hidden.
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