12-11-2012, 12:26
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LEOs stunned when woman drops off $40,000 WWII German rifle...
to be destroyed in police buy-back scheme.
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A World War II assault rifle that belonged to an SS officer was handed in to a gun buy-back organised by police in Connecticut.
The rare find, which is worth up to $40,000, would have been sent home by an American soldier who had taken it from a prisoner of war or a German he had killed.
Officer Lewis Crabtree, of the Hartford Police Dept, said: 'The chance to see a piece of history - this - is absolutely unbelievable.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2EljRe75q
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12-11-2012, 13:22
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Last I heard is that they did not keep it and returned it to her with permission to sell/transfer.
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"This is a gun that should actually be in a museum rather than in a shredder,” Crabtree said.
And that's why they will allow the owner to sell the gun.
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12-11-2012, 13:40
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Makes one wonder how many STG-44s were brought back after the war and also how many are still sitting in someone's basement or attic.
Can I have just one? 
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12-11-2012, 13:45
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Is she going to be in trouble with BATFE now?
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12-11-2012, 13:56
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They will just make her sell it to Mexico....
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12-11-2012, 14:08
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It WILL prove to be a headache for the poor woman. It is still a Class 3 Firearm. The BATF can offer a waiver, but this is usually done to donate to an approved Museum. The only saving grace for her would be: If it had "amnesty" papers given to the soldier that brought it back (Bring back papers) or was legally registered under GCA68. My FFL doesnt cover Class 3 regs. so, I may be a little off center on just how she stands.
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Makes one wonder how many STG-44s were brought back after the war and also how many are still sitting in someone's basement or attic
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They are not all still sitting in someone's basement or attic.
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...ighlight=STG44
Scroll all the way down. How many can you identify.
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12-11-2012, 17:28
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My understanding is it was registered in the amnesty / bring-back program.
She just needs to Form 3 it to my dealer... 
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12-11-2012, 17:55
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Wonder if she would do a straight up trade for the pink .22 Cricket I bought my grand-daughter?
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12-11-2012, 20:18
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Originally Posted by Streck-Fu
Last I heard is that they did not keep it and returned it to her with permission to sell/transfer.
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Highly doubtful, if it is not on the NFA registry.
If there is no registration, there is no amnesty, and the gun was, and remains, a full-auto weapon per ATF rules.
The best she can hope for, if it is unregistered, is the ability to donate it to a museum, almost certainly without compensation, as a sale would be illegal, and it cannot be legally transferred to an individual unless it is in the registry.
If the ATF wants to open the gates for a general amnesty based on this incident, they better be prepared.
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12-12-2012, 06:11
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Another option for the woman, and one that would be less painful and still yield a nice return would be to render the receiver inoperable, then sell the remaining pieces or as a parts gun. This should produce a return in the five figure range.
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12-12-2012, 09:42
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From Weapons Man
http://weaponsman.com/?p=6042
" Fortunately, an informed, honest cop saved the weapon from destruction, and its owner will be allowed to sell it out of state, rather than sacrifice a $25-30k weapon to the smelter.
The reportedly NFA-registered gun was a WWII bringback by an deceased family member."
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12-12-2012, 10:43
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Highly doubtful, if it is not on the NFA registry.
If there is no registration, there is no amnesty, and the gun was, and remains, a full-auto weapon per ATF rules.
The best she can hope for, if it is unregistered, is the ability to donate it to a museum, almost certainly without compensation, as a sale would be illegal, and it cannot be legally transferred to an individual unless it is in the registry.
If the ATF wants to open the gates for a general amnesty based on this incident, they better be prepared.
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TR Sir,
Can you please expand on your train of thought regarding this? (For reasons prior mentioned regarding WWII Guns...)  
Thank you,
Holly
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12-12-2012, 19:45
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
If the ATF wants to open the gates for a general amnesty based on this incident, they better be prepared.
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As in, pre-US v. Miller, for anything mil-pattern, in fact the only thing that's out is a really bad hack job on a moonshiner's shotgun?
Pretty please!
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12-12-2012, 19:51
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Originally Posted by koz
From Weapons Man
http://weaponsman.com/?p=6042
" Fortunately, an informed, honest cop saved the weapon from destruction, and its owner will be allowed to sell it out of state, rather than sacrifice a $25-30k weapon to the smelter.
The reportedly NFA-registered gun was a WWII bringback by an deceased family member." |
Wonder how long it'll be before the cop finds an official reprimand in his personnel file?
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12-12-2012, 19:52
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TR Sir,
Can you please expand on your train of thought regarding this? (For reasons prior mentioned regarding WWII Guns...)
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If you have a fully automatic weapon and BATF paperwork, don't turn it in to the police at a gun buyback, especially if you need the money.
If you have an automatic weapon and no paperwork, you should be aware that the penalty for possessing it is a $250,000 fine and 10 years in prison.
If you have pretty much any gun, do not turn it in at a police gun buyback. You will almost certainly not get the money for it that you would from selling it yourself.
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