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Old 11-26-2012, 10:20   #1
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PRAVDA: Obama 're-elected by illiterate society'...

This is funny as hell, even the hardcore commies are calling obama a commie and a socialist and the "Americans" that voted for him "illiterate"..... That made my day!
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Obama's Soviet Mistake
19.11.2012
By Xavier Lerma
Putin in 2009 outlined his strategy for economic success. Alas, poor Obama did the opposite but nevertheless was re-elected. Bye, bye Miss American Pie. The Communists have won in America with Obama but failed miserably in Russia with Zyuganov who only received 17% of the vote. Vladimir Putin was re-elected as President keeping the NWO order out of Russia while America continues to repeat the Soviet mistake.

After Obama was elected in his first term as president the then Prime Minister of Russia, Vladimir Putin gave a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in January of 2009. Ignored by the West as usual, Putin gave insightful and helpful advice to help the world economy and saying the world should avoid the Soviet mistake.

Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.

Putin said regarding the military,

"...instead of solving the problem, militarization pushes it to a deeper level. It draws away from the economy immense financial and material resources, which could have been used much more efficiently elsewhere."

Well, any normal individual understands that as true but liberalism is a psychosis . O'bomber even keeps the war going along the Mexican border with projects like "fast and furious" and there is still no sign of ending it. He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama's fools and Stalin's fools share the same drink of illusion.

Reading Putin's speech without knowing the author, one would think it was written by Reagan or another conservative in America. The speech promotes smaller government and less taxes. It comes as no surprise to those who know Putin as a conservative. Vladimir Putin went on to say:

"...we are reducing taxes on production, investing money in the economy. We are optimizing state expenses.

The second possible mistake would be excessive interference into the economic life of the country and the absolute faith into the all-mightiness of the state.

There are no grounds to suggest that by putting the responsibility over to the state, one can achieve better results.

Unreasonable expansion of the budget deficit, accumulation of the national debt - are as destructive as an adventurous stock market game.

During the time of the Soviet Union the role of the state in economy was made absolute, which eventually lead to the total non-competitiveness of the economy. That lesson cost us very dearly. I am sure no one would want history to repeat itself."

President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don't they? Alas, the schools in the U.S. were conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents. Obama has bailed out those businesses that voted for him and increased the debt to over 16 trillion with an ever increasing unemployment rate especially among blacks and other minorities. All the while promoting his agenda.

"We must seek support in the moral values that have ensured the progress of our civilization. Honesty and hard work, responsibility and faith in our strength are bound to bring us success."- Vladimir Putin

The red, white and blue still flies happily but only in Russia. Russia still has St George defeating the Dragon with the symbol of the cross on its' flag. The ACLU and other atheist groups in America would never allow the US flag with such religious symbols. Lawsuits a plenty against religious freedom and expression in the land of the free. Christianity in the U.S. is under attack as it was during the early period of the Soviet Union when religious symbols were against the law.

Let's give American voters the benefit of the doubt and say it was all voter fraud and not ignorance or stupidity in electing a man who does not even know what to do and refuses help from Russia when there was an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Instead we'll say it's true that the Communists usage of electronic voting was just a plan to manipulate the vote. Soros and his ownership of the company that counts the US votes in Spain helped put their puppet in power in the White House. According to the Huffington Post, residents in all 50 states have filed petitions to secede from the Unites States. We'll say that these Americans are hostages to the Communists in power. How long will their government reign tyranny upon them?

Russia lost its' civil war with the Reds and millions suffered torture and death for almost 75 years under the tyranny of the United Soviet Socialist Republic. Russians survived with a new and stronger faith in God and ever growing Christian Church. The question is how long will the once "Land of the Free" remain the United Socialist States of America? Their suffering has only begun. Bye bye Miss American Pie! You know the song you hippies. Sing it! Don't you remember? The 1971 hit song by American song writer Don McLean:

"And, as I watched him on the stage my hands were clenched in fists of rage.

No angel born in Hell could break that Satan's spell

And, as the flames climbed high into the night to light the sacrificial rite, I saw...

Satan laughing with delight the day the music died

He was singing, bye bye Miss American Pie

Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry

Them good ol' boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing...

This'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die

So, the question remains:

How long will America suffer and to what depths?


Xavier Lerma

Contact Xavier Lerma at xlermanov@swissmail.org
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...iet_mistake-0/
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:34   #2
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I think that was the American electorate collectively stepping on its dick!
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:52   #3
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Ah - memories of reading such articles in these magazines back when they were the 'Red Menace'...

And so it goes...

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Old 11-26-2012, 13:42   #4
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I don't know about all that...I'm just waiting for the free ice cream Obama promised me.
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Old 11-26-2012, 14:03   #5
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TS, thanks for that with its link.
Interesting perspective, dating from April 2009 (different .ru author) here:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col..._capitalism-0/

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First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.
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The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.
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I would love to see Mr. Lerma's article posted in our USA Today or NY Times. Give everyone something to ponder while Christmas shopping. The slope is even steeper than I thought now that the Soviets are laughing at us.
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I would love to see Mr. Lerma's article posted in our USA Today or NY Times. Give everyone something to ponder while Christmas shopping. The slope is even steeper than I thought now that the Soviets are laughing at us.
They've always 'laughed' at us, haven't they?

I'll keep my "Cold War" perspective and still be suspicious of anything I read in Pravda. (I think Mitt was on to something with his supposed 'gaffe' as regards the former-Bolsheviks.
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I'll keep my "Cold War" perspective and still be suspicious of anything I read in Pravda.
By all means, they (and certainly Putin) have tangled webs beyond belief. Am slogging through that book that QP Pete mentioned in the Area Studies Pillar of Cloud thread (alleged Politburo notes & interpretations of same etc.) and they always have several chess boards they're taking care of at any one time.

By contrasting with Obama, it's also serving as a PR piece for Putin.
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By contrasting with Obama, it's also serving as a PR piece for Putin.
In my time, the term was "AgitProp" - still applies IMO.

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In my time, the term was "AgitProp" - still applies IMO.

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This is funny as hell, even the hardcore commies are calling obama a commie and a socialist and the "Americans" that voted for him "illiterate"..... That made my day!
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Obama's Soviet Mistake
19.11.2012
By Xavier Lerma
Putin in 2009 outlined his strategy for economic success. Alas, poor Obama did the opposite but nevertheless was re-elected. Bye, bye Miss American Pie. The Communists have won in America with Obama but failed miserably in Russia with Zyuganov who only received 17% of the vote. Vladimir Putin was re-elected as President keeping the NWO order out of Russia while America continues to repeat the Soviet mistake.

After Obama was elected in his first term as president the then Prime Minister of Russia, Vladimir Putin gave a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in January of 2009. Ignored by the West as usual, Putin gave insightful and helpful advice to help the world economy and saying the world should avoid the Soviet mistake.

Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.

Putin said regarding the military,

"...instead of solving the problem, militarization pushes it to a deeper level. It draws away from the economy immense financial and material resources, which could have been used much more efficiently elsewhere."

Well, any normal individual understands that as true but liberalism is a psychosis . O'bomber even keeps the war going along the Mexican border with projects like "fast and furious" and there is still no sign of ending it. He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. [B]His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama's fools and Stalin's fools share the same drink of illusion.[/B]

Reading Putin's speech without knowing the author, one would think it was written by Reagan or another conservative in America. The speech promotes smaller government and less taxes. It comes as no surprise to those who know Putin as a conservative. Vladimir Putin went on to say:

"...we are reducing taxes on production, investing money in the economy. We are optimizing state expenses.

The second possible mistake would be excessive interference into the economic life of the country and the absolute faith into the all-mightiness of the state.

There are no grounds to suggest that by putting the responsibility over to the state, one can achieve better results.

Unreasonable expansion of the budget deficit, accumulation of the national debt - are as destructive as an adventurous stock market game.

During the time of the Soviet Union the role of the state in economy was made absolute, which eventually lead to the total non-competitiveness of the economy. That lesson cost us very dearly. I am sure no one would want history to repeat itself."

:President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don't they? Alas, the schools in the U.S. were conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents. Obama has bailed out those businesses that voted for him and increased the debt to over 16 trillion with an ever increasing unemployment rate especially among blacks and other minorities. All the while promoting his agenda.


"We must seek support in the moral values that have ensured the progress of our civilization. Honesty and hard work, responsibility and faith in our strength are bound to bring us success."- Vladimir Putin

The red, white and blue still flies happily but only in Russia. Russia still has St George defeating the Dragon with the symbol of the cross on its' flag. The ACLU and other atheist groups in America would never allow the US flag with such religious symbols. Lawsuits a plenty against religious freedom and expression in the land of the free. Christianity in the U.S. is under attack as it was during the early period of the Soviet Union when religious symbols were against the law.

Let's give American voters the benefit of the doubt and say it was all voter fraud and not ignorance or stupidity in electing a man who does not even know what to do and refuses help from Russia when there was an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Instead we'll say it's true that the Communists usage of electronic voting was just a plan to manipulate the vote. Soros and his ownership of the company that counts the US votes in Spain helped put their puppet in power in the White House. According to the Huffington Post, residents in all 50 states have filed petitions to secede from the Unites States. We'll say that these Americans are hostages to the Communists in power. How long will their government reign tyranny upon them?

Russia lost its' civil war with the Reds and millions suffered torture and death for almost 75 years under the tyranny of the United Soviet Socialist Republic. Russians survived with a new and stronger faith in God and ever growing Christian Church. The question is how long will the once "Land of the Free" remain the United Socialist States of America? Their suffering has only begun. Bye bye Miss American Pie! You know the song you hippies. Sing it! Don't you remember? The 1971 hit song by American song writer Don McLean:

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Contact Xavier Lerma at xlermanov@swissmail.org
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/col...iet_mistake-0/
I don't care who the hell wrote the parts I bolded - they're spot on. I personally don't think of President Obama as a communist. But at a minimum he is a Democratic Socialist in the European mold.

It's three weeks after the election an I'm still sickened.

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I don't care who the hell wrote the parts I bolded - they're spot on. I personally don't think of President Obama as a communist. But at a minimum he is a Democratic Socialist in the European mold.

It's three weeks after the election an I'm still sickened.
The hallmark of socialism is government ownership of the means of production. Venezuela is the modern day prototype: taking over mines, factories, oil, and so on.

The hallmark of communism is destruction of the concept of private property: everything is owned by the community -- which is, in turn, controlled by a strong central government, "for their own good." Soviet Russia was the prototype.

Obama is neither of those.

The hallmark of fascism is government colluding with corporations and unions. Gov creates laws that favor one corp over another, or that send truckloads of taxpayer money their way, and in return they feed the public whatever propaganda gov wants. If they mess up, gov can claim they weren't responsible, and blame the corp, which then helps facilitate creation of more laws -- all of the "benefits" of socialism, without the risks.

I think many people would be surprised at (or simply wouldn't believe) the depth of Obama's corporate connections--not just Solyndra, but a whole laundry list of similar hand-outs. There's a book called Obamanomics that goes into considerable detail about them. How else could he have raised $1B for his campaign? Why else would the MSM be so strongly biased in his favor? Although ideology plays a big part, there's much more to it.

I would describe Obama as projecting an outwardly Progressive image, but using Fascist strategy and tactics.

Unfortunately, Repubs are just as guilty as the Dems on this front (although the Dems are certainly being more effective at the moment), which is one reason I think the Repub campaigns felt so flat and ineffective. To truly expose the Dems for what they are, the Repubs would be shooting themselves in the foot at the same time (or so they think).
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I don't care who the hell wrote the parts I bolded - they're spot on. I personally don't think of President Obama as a communist. But at a minimum he is a Democratic Socialist in the European mold.

It's three weeks after the election an I'm still sickened.
Spot on... NOT (on)!

You really don't care WHO wrote them? I guess you are NOT a 'child of the Cold War'. I care deeply about who writes things... and WHY they write them. I delve into them, as it were, old bean.

I'm so thrilled that you don't view President Obama as a 'communist' (Should that be capitalized?). I'm sure he's thrilled, too. Just as he is probably relieved that you assess him to be (at minimum) a "Democratic Socialist in the European mold". (I battled some European mold once in a rental property. Nasty business...)

If you went beyond your minimum, how would you classify him? I mean, what are the 'steps' between "Democratic Socialist in the European mold" and "communist"? (I did well in micro, but poorly in macro...though I usually excelled at Marco... Polo, that is.) What I mean is... is there a "Democratic Socialist in a <insert geographic area> mold", or "Full-Blooded Socialist without any mold", or what?

Three weeks rest really charged you up, didn't it?

Also, I refer you to a question I posed in Post #26 in the "How Do You Raise Taxes" thread.

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? . . . I would describe Obama as projecting an outwardly Progressive image, but using Fascist strategy).
The communist-socialist thing didn't work out, so now the President is a Nazi...?
Well, at least we have him bracketed.
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The communist-socialist thing didn't work out, so now the President is a Nazi...?
German Nazism as most Americans understand it today was an extreme endpoint. There was a long road between the early days and the end stage. What we have today is something new -- my point is that it has a number of philosophical similarities with both the German and the Italian flavors of Fascism.

Do any of the following points sound familiar?


We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood.

All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class.

We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

The State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people.

The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press.

We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.


The above are select items from the Nazi Party's list of 25 demands:
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar...r/25points.htm

The modern US variant currently has a more Progressive / socialist / communist public front to it, but the behind-the-scenes corporatist ties are extremely deep and widespread. It sure as hell isn't Capitalism, a Free Market and personal choice / responsibility anymore.
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