11-18-2012, 07:38
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The Looters' war against wealth
The best way to control the masses is to ensure a culture of dependency, shield the electorate from reality, and preach about the evil's of wealth. The first link is an interesting article about why urbanites come out in droves for the liberals. The second talks about the wealth destroying program that the libs are expanding.
The Partisan Divide Between Urban And Non-Urban Areas
The Curley effect goes national
Class warfare at its finest. Several have mentioned Ayn Rand's epic Atlas Shrugged lately. If you believe in capitalism over socialism and the squandered industrial might of America, you should check it out.
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11-22-2012, 18:04
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The saddest part of the Curley effect is there is not any way to reverse this trend. Once people are dependent on government handouts they will forever vote the hand that feeds them. The scales have tipped and one would have to be blind not to see our demise on the horizon.
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11-22-2012, 19:55
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The Curley Effect is a pretty sobering read, this last election was quite a statement as to the kind off nation we are becoming. I can see the brass ring, it is so close but I have to wonder if I will get there, I was planning on retiring in 37 months now I am hoping to retire in 37 months. I agree with Cobwebs on this matter, I do not see us reversing this trend.
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11-24-2012, 10:34
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The saddest part of the Curley effect is there is not any way to reverse this trend. Once people are dependent on government handouts they will forever vote the hand that feeds them. The scales have tipped and one would have to be blind not to see our demise on the horizon.
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I agree that we have passed a "tipping point" and that for the foreseeable future the trend will not be reversed. However, this experiment has been tried many times before and the outcome is predictable - economic failure. When that happens, and it will, society will look to us for rescue. We need to be prepared.
In another thread, the question was asked, Who is John Galt? Answer: We are all John Galt. The operative question is, Where is Galt's Gulch? Answer: It is being built here.
We do not need to surrender to the inevitable outcome of egalitarian experimentation. We can keep our values and principles alive and pass them on to the next generation by our words and our deeds. That is our duty, our responsibility, our mission.
As you said, one would have to be blind not to see our demise on the horizon. This is true I am afraid and it saddens me to my core. However, that does not need to be the end of the American story. A rebirth can follow and will follow and it will be led by us and those like us. We are following in the footsteps of giants like Hamilton, Jefferson, Adams, Washington, Franklin and all our comrades in arms (literal and figurative) that followed them.
Keep the faith Cobwebs, we are in for a rough ride no doubt, but we have been there before. We are outnumbered and facing superior firepower. We have been there before too. But, we are a motivated minority and, if our history is any indicator at all, we will prevail.
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11-24-2012, 13:48
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Thanks for picking me up Trapper. Since the election I've been in somewhat of a rut. As I say in my profile I'm keeping the faith. People like you give me hope. 
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I agree that we have passed a "tipping point" and that for the foreseeable future the trend will not be reversed. However, this experiment has been tried many times before and the outcome is predictable - economic failure. When that happens, and it will, society will look to us for rescue. We need to be prepared.
In another thread, the question was asked, Who is John Galt? Answer: We are all John Galt. The operative question is, Where is Galt's Gulch? Answer: It is being built here.
We do not need to surrender to the inevitable outcome of egalitarian experimentation. We can keep our values and principles alive and pass them on to the next generation by our words and our deeds. That is our duty, our responsibility, our mission.
As you said, one would have to be blind not to see our demise on the horizon. This is true I am afraid and it saddens me to my core. However, that does not need to be the end of the American story. A rebirth can follow and will follow and it will be led by us and those like us. We are following in the footsteps of giants like Hamilton, Jefferson, Adams, Washington, Franklin and all our comrades in arms (literal and figurative) that followed them.
Keep the faith Cobwebs, we are in for a rough ride no doubt, but we have been there before. We are outnumbered and facing superior firepower. We have been there before too. But, we are a motivated minority and, if our history is any indicator at all, we will prevail.
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11-24-2012, 15:16
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Cobwebs, I understand! The reality that was thrust upon me from the election results still depresses me too. I am just trying to assess the changes in the AO and formulate a new Order of Battle 
Let's keep in touch. Kindred spirits I am sure {Salute}
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11-24-2012, 17:50
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I agree that we have passed a "tipping point" and that for the foreseeable future the trend will not be reversed. However, this experiment has been tried many times before and the outcome is predictable - economic failure. When that happens, and it will, society will look to us for rescue. We need to be prepared.
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Who is "us"? Your statement is ambiguous and unclear.
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11-24-2012, 19:11
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I can see the brass ring, it is so close but I have to wonder if I will get there, I was planning on retiring in 37 months now I am hoping to retire in 37 months.
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I will suggest that you not place your hopes on getting a civil service job. We are facing serious cuts; a 10% reduction is coming, and I work in a high responsibility field. I'll not be surprised if my position gets eliminated.
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11-24-2012, 19:54
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I will suggest that you not place your hopes on getting a civil service job. We are facing serious cuts; a 10% reduction is coming, and I work in a high responsibility field. I'll not be surprised if my position gets eliminated.
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I am way past the civil service stage, I want to get completely out of the work force and make room for someone else who needs a job. I wish you and everyone else who's jobs may be on the bubble the best, it's not going to be pretty but a day of reckoning is out there, God help us all.
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11-24-2012, 19:56
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Who is "us"? Your statement is ambiguous and unclear.
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"Us" is all of the John Galts that are on this site.
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11-24-2012, 21:19
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"Us" is all of the John Galts that are on this site.
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Y'all can be John Galt. I'm ... Spartacus! 
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11-24-2012, 21:31
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An escaped slave turned gladiator and then leader of a slave revolt?
Yeah, I can dig it.
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11-24-2012, 21:43
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Galt survived his revolt and set the stage for enduring change. Can't say the same for Spartacus. Personally, I'm not particularly enamoured of crucifixion.
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11-25-2012, 05:16
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The saddest part of the Curley effect is there is not any way to reverse this trend. Once people are dependent on government handouts they will forever vote the hand that feeds them. The scales have tipped and one would have to be blind not to see our demise on the horizon.
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Yep. I'm afraid the future of urban America may look an awful lot like Detroit.
As someone once said "you can deny reality, but you can't deny the consequences of denying reality."
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11-25-2012, 07:16
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You do realize that there is a difference between fiction and reality?
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