11-11-2012, 16:43
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Looking for AR sight recommendation
I'd like to get an optical sight for my flatop that won't break the bank but still be reliable for targets, occasional varmints, and maybe a little competition.
I figure something in the mid-price range will suit me. Any favorites?
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11-11-2012, 18:06
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Originally Posted by Utah Bob
I'd like to get an optical sight for my flatop that won't break the bank but still be reliable for targets, occasional varmints, and maybe a little competition.
I figure something in the mid-price range will suit me. Any favorites?
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Do you want magnification, or not?
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11-11-2012, 18:28
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Do you want magnification, or not?
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Do they come in bifocal?
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11-11-2012, 18:46
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Do they come in bifocal?
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Negative.
No magnification is faster, but limits precision.
Generally, 100 and under, I would definitely go with zero mag, 100-300, toss-up, over 300, magnification. For two-legged game-sized targets, that is. You can make do with either at all ranges, but at the extremes, one will be easier to use well.
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11-11-2012, 20:04
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Leupold offers a great discount through Promotive. I am a dealer for leapold and the Promotive pricing is below my dealer cost. Aimpoint is also on Promotive but the discount is much less, 30% off MSRP I think.
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11-11-2012, 21:32
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No magnification - Aimpoint T-1. It is very durable.
Magnification - Look at the Leupold Mk 6 1-6x. It's a true 1x and you can see the lit reticle in the daytime. It's not as fast as an aimpoint or EoTech but you have the magnification.
Other options include the Bushnell 1-6, Bushnell is coming out with a 1-8x in the Spring. US Optics 1.5-6 Dual Focal Plane, Vortex 1-6x.
These scopes are all in the $1100-2000 range. The Aimpoint is around $650 with a mount from Larue.
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11-11-2012, 23:27
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I put a Burris Extreme Tactical XTR 30mm on my Sig556 and am very happy with it.
Magnification is 1X-4X-24mm with Balistic 5.56 Gen2 reticle with amber dot center illumination ring. Retail paid $1199 and that came with a small red dot holographic quick sight mounted to the top of it. So two sights in one really. I believe it also came with standard picatinny rail mounts for that price.
I see on the box the scope alone is priced $800
Again happy with. Zeroed it at 100 and was shooting a bowling pin at 300 shortly after.
Only problem I've experienced it that the adjustment wheel for the reticle illumination seems a bit temperamental in that it cuts out the light as you turn up the brightness so you have to rotate and then back off to get what you like.
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11-12-2012, 08:01
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Take a look at the Aimpoint PRO (Patrol Rifle Optic) which is a 1x30 red dot. The dot is 2MOA so won't be precise but will put you on target for the target shooting and competition. The size of the varmint and distance will determine effectiveness for that use. It can be had for ~$400.
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11-12-2012, 09:42
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Another cheaper option is the Vortex Strikefire. Its a close copy of the Aimpoint, comes with a mount and Vortex has a pretty good warranty. I haven't used/abused one enough that I would put it on my duty gun, but I have seen some people use them in classes and they held up great.
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11-13-2012, 12:12
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I'm thinking no magnification. The property here is mostly wooded so varmints are rarely visible at extended distances. Other rifles in the safe are set up bettr for long range.
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys.
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11-13-2012, 14:44
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AR Optics
I use a Aimpoint comp M4 with a 3X adapter on a twist mount which has worked well since I have been a contractor. When I was a soldier I used a Leupold Mk4 1.5-5 and used from everything from CQB distances to 700 yds. It was only about $650 and suited my purposes well. Using the SPR reticle in the Leupold was remarkably quick. If I needed one optic to do it all I would not hesitate to get another one. NIghtforce also has a 1-4 power optic that I have heard good things about but at about double the price. I use my AR with the Leupold for varmint and deer hunting in Oklahoma from time to time and can still take a deer at about 200 yds. I wont push much farther with a 5.56. It is also great for armadillos that run across the ground. MOO
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11-13-2012, 19:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah Bob
I'm thinking no magnification. The property here is mostly wooded so varmints are rarely visible at extended distances. Other rifles in the safe are set up bettr for long range.
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys.
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Then I recommend an EOTech or an Aimpoint.
The EOTech has a better reticle and is a more open design, the Aimpoint has significantly better battery life and is at least theoretically more durable.
I prefer the EOTech, though I have both.
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11-14-2012, 08:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah Bob
I'd like to get an optical sight for my flatop that won't break the bank but still be reliable for targets, occasional varmints, and maybe a little competition. I figure something in the mid-price range will suit me. Any favorites?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah Bob
I'm thinking no magnification. The property here is mostly wooded so varmints are rarely visible at extended distances. Other rifles in the safe are set up bettr for long range.
Thanks for the suggestions so far guys.
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well, I read the underlined terms above, so here's a cheapie-but-a-goodie-sorta
http://swfa.com/Optisan-1-4x24-Mamba...t-Combo-P51887
just be willing to deal with not precisely 1x magnification (very hard to tell 1.1 to 1), some glare with illuminated reticle (big deal, use w/o illumination), and mushy adjustment screw (quite a big deal at first, but once it's set, it's GTG)
or this with Larue mount, cowitnessed with BUIS. I've abused this one myself with offset mount on the OBR. Also met group guy who set his ACOG and TRS25 on offset. Works like a charm
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Troph.../dp/B00200E0HM
If there's enough dough for it, then hard to beat what everyone has recommended.
EOTech XPS with 3 or 5x magnifier, cowitnessed with BUIS. I've seen poor iron-sight shooter performed way better than his qual card indicated once he ran an EOTech
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11-16-2012, 19:27
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well, I read the underlined terms above, so here's a cheapie-but-a-goodie-sorta
http://swfa.com/Optisan-1-4x24-Mamba...t-Combo-P51887
just be willing to deal with not precisely 1x magnification (very hard to tell 1.1 to 1), some glare with illuminated reticle (big deal, use w/o illumination), and mushy adjustment screw (quite a big deal at first, but once it's set, it's GTG)
or this with Larue mount, cowitnessed with BUIS. I've abused this one myself with offset mount on the OBR. Also met group guy who set his ACOG and TRS25 on offset. Works like a charm
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Troph.../dp/B00200E0HM
If there's enough dough for it, then hard to beat what everyone has recommended.
EOTech XPS with 3 or 5x magnifier, cowitnessed with BUIS. I've seen poor iron-sight shooter performed way better than his qual card indicated once he ran an EOTech |
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11-22-2012, 15:07
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try this one...
http://swfa.com/Optisan-Riflescopes-C3507.aspx
or google
Optisan 1-4x24 Mamba
Once again, you got what you paid for....but unless one desires to-hell-and-back reliability and plans to toss the entire setup to hard surface every now and then, this one should do the job just fine 
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