Trump and Revolution

[MR2]

Trump Tweeted “We should have a revolution in this country.” That was the opinion of Donald Trump after President Obama won re-election last night.

Instead of publicly fermenting revolution, I'd rather he buy up a few papers and the three networks. Eliminate the political bigots and return them back to real news organizations that report the truth no matter where the chips fall.

[Radar Rider]

Yes; a revolution.

Not a revolution in the militant sense, but a revolution of the citizens voting for a realistic, better future. Maybe in 2016...

I continue to hope for change.

[MtnGoat]

I say a mass mob like a tweet mob or some sense.

[SF18C]

Originally Posted by MtnGoat

I say a mass mob like a tweet mob or some sense.

We should have a "dance off" flash mob!!!!

[spherojon]

Originally Posted by SF18C

We should have a "dance off" flash mob!!!!

Depends, who picks the music?

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by MR2

Eliminate the political bigots and return them back to real news organizations that report the truth no matter where the chips fall.

MOO, there's a growing disconnect between (a) the criticisms of the MSM for being "biased" and (b) the argument that a corporation's business practices are matters for bosses and shareholders to decide, and that market forces will be the arbiter of success or failure.

To me, a way to close this gap is to find ways to encourage interest parties to broaden the range of their viewing/reading/listening so that they're comfortable engaging multiple POVs and then deciding for themselves what is factually accurate and which analyses are the most perceptive. From there, consumers will decide if they want to pay for professional journalism or to keep slopping around in the blogosphere.

YMMV.

[blue02hd]

Sig,

I agree with your latest post, however my experiences from traveling and working around this globe of ours indicate that:

1. Sheep don't read.
2. Sheep don't care.
3. Those in power will always find ways to keep it.

Pain is the greatest educator.

I truly wish we were looking at different problem sets, but it seems this is our calling for now.

[Pete]

There will be no revolution. There will be no secession of any state.

While there are Red States and Blue States each has a good number of the other side.

The government has it's money tendrils winding through all levels of Federal, State and Local governments. Everybody is addicted to the money.

Even now the GOP-e leadership is wondering how they can pander to groups to buy votes. The D's have brought up the GOP-e leadership could get more of the Latino vote if they would just jump on board the D ship and pass the DREAM act. Gee, why would the D's suggest that?

It is now just a slow slide to becoming Greece.

Only then will the bad stuff happen - and then anything goes.

[MR2]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

MOO, there's a growing disconnect between (a) the criticisms of the MSM for being "biased" and (b) the argument that a corporation's business practices are matters for bosses and shareholders to decide, and that market forces will be the arbiter of success or failure.

I've been seeing this opinion from several members of the former profession once known as journalism. If this is true, then don't you think that this "business" no longer needs any of special protections afforded it under the First Amendment? As a free competitive business it would also be subject to regulations. In fact regulations against most forms of irresponsible, yet free speech such as lying, misrepresentation, labeling, etc. are currently levied against business. And then there is the slander/libel laws the press often gets a pass on due to the current burden-of-proof levels. Are so-called journalist ready to have industry-wide regulations imposed upon them?

As for entities that are too big to fail/exist - the combinations of news/entertainment/broadcast/cable/print/big screen/Internet/etc. by single companies is obscene IMO. Disney, Sony, Comcast, and Murdoch!

Originally Posted by Sigaba

To me, a way to close this gap is to find ways to encourage interest parties to broaden the range of their viewing/reading/listening so that they're comfortable engaging multiple POVs and then deciding for themselves what is factually accurate and which analyses are the most perceptive. From there, consumers will decide if they want to pay for professional journalism or to keep slopping around in the blogosphere.

YMMV.

A very tall order my friend. Not that I disagree. What your talking about is "fundamentally transforming America". But with High School graduation rates falling precipitously and ADHD rates skyrocketing, I don't think that even Stewart/Coulbert can hold the attention of the coming generations.

As always, MOO

[ZonieDiver]

What your talking about is "fundamentally transforming America".

As we used to say, "There it is."

Someone should start a Super-PAC called "Fundamentally Transforming America" asap, and hit people up for BIG bucks - starting with that asshat Trump. (He should pay up, or STFU...AND get a real haircut! I suggest 'high and tight'.)

(Stolen idea) IF you aren't working with young people... start. If you're in scouting, stay. Work harder. If your church has a youth group, get active with it. IF it doesn't, talk to the pastor/priest and START one. IF there's a kid in your neighborhood with NO father around - step forward. Take him to a ballgame, hunting, fishing.

The "liberals" didn't "take over" education. WE (Rs, conservatives, etc) abandoned it too them. When I started teaching high school (1975) in the metro Phoenix area, at least half or more of our faculty of 125 were on the 'right', and at least 1/5 of them were veterans.

When I retired in 2011, there were only about a dozen of us "righties" in a similar-sized staff. Surrounded and outnumbered - and I was the only airborne vet - out of 6, including the two JROTC instructors. (And one of those vets was pretty far to the left!)

When I work in the community, I don't see a lot of my conservative brothers and sisters beside me. I see liberal 'do-gooders'. If WE want to change things in the way people act...and react to conservatives... WE need to put our words into actions.

Or WE can sit on our asses here and whine.

[Barbarian]

ZonieDiver's post (#10)

Excellent post. You hit it dead on. Being a good influence....... investing in the future.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by ZonieDiver

As we used to say, "There it is."

Someone should start a Super-PAC called "Fundamentally Transforming America" asap, and hit people up for BIG bucks - starting with that asshat Trump. (He should pay up, or STFU...AND get a real haircut! I suggest 'high and tight'.)

(Stolen idea) IF you aren't working with young people... start. If you're in scouting, stay. Work harder. If your church has a youth group, get active with it. IF it doesn't, talk to the pastor/priest and START one. IF there's a kid in your neighborhood with NO father around - step forward. Take him to a ballgame, hunting, fishing.

The "liberals" didn't "take over" education. WE (Rs, conservatives, etc) abandoned it too them. When I started teaching high school (1975) in the metro Phoenix area, at least half or more of our faculty of 125 were on the 'right', and at least 1/5 of them were veterans.

When I retired in 2011, there were only about a dozen of us "righties" in a similar-sized staff. Surrounded and outnumbered - and I was the only airborne vet - out of 6, including the two JROTC instructors. (And one of those vets was pretty far to the left!)

When I work in the community, I don't see a lot of my conservative brothers and sisters beside me. I see liberal 'do-gooders'. If WE want to change things in the way people act...and react to conservatives... WE need to put our words into actions.

Or WE can sit on our asses here and whine.

Great post, Zonie. Absolutey nailed it.
We also need to enlighten women, Latinos and college students as to the potential for economic disaster with the status quo.

[Stargazer]

Informative chart showing the shift in demographics.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ng-enough.html

If you look at the chart you will see that women did move back towards the republican ticket, whites, along with men, those that earn less than $30K and $50K or more. Towns and rural areas remained strong, while suburbia moved back as well. Even those in cities moved back towards the republican ticket but remain the democratic center.

I was surprised to see that Asians moved towards the democratic ticket (along with hispanic/latinos although this was expected).

Also -- 18 to 29 year-olds moved back towards republican but look at the shift in 30 to 44 year-olds

I, too, agree with the challenge Zoniediver sets forth. Great post.

[Cobwebs]

Zonie you remember back in the day if you became a teacher it was an automatic deferment. That's where all the libs hid so they wouldn't be sent to Vietnam. Is it any wonder that after spewing left wing ideology to our children for the past 40 years we now have a 2 term Obama. To believe we can intellectually reason with this group is wishful thinking. They not only control our crumbling education system but the media.
We are heading towards a turbulent time in our country, one I never thought I would see.l I love your post but that ship may of already sailed.

[afchic]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Great post, Zonie. Absolutey nailed it.
We also need to enlighten women, Latinos and college students as to the potential for economic disaster with the status quo.

I am tired of you acting as if no White Male would or did vote for Obama. Had they not done so, Romney would have won. You can not portend to put the blame squarely on one or two sets of shoulders. Without any one of those groups going for Obama, he wouldn't have won.