10-24-2012, 15:46
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Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) meets Texas
Holy shite this is amusing Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) and the Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) is sending "observers" to the United States to monitor our elections........ Texas has answered in a big way.....I need to move, to Texas. 
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Press release
Press release
Threat of criminal prosecution of observers at odds with established co-operation on United States elections, ODIHR Director says
Texas responds to Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE):
October 23, 2012
Ambassador Daan Everts
Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights
Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe
UI. Miodowa 10
00-251
Warsaw, Poland
Dear Ambassador Everts:
The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) will reportedly dispatch election observers to the State of Texas to monitor the November 2012 general election. While it remains unclear exactly what your monitoring is intended to achieve, or precisely what tactics you will use to achieve the proposed monitoring, OSCE has stated publicly that it will visit polling stations on Election Day as part of its monitoring plan.
In April, you reportedly met with a group of organizations that have filed lawsuits challenging election integrity laws enacted by the Texas Legislature. One of those organizations, Project Vote, is closely affiliated with ACORN, which collapsed in disgrace after its role in a widespread voter-registration fraud scheme was uncovered. In September, a federal appeals court rejected Project Vote’s challenge to the State’s voter-registration regulations and allowed Texas to continue enforcing laws that were enacted to protect the integrity of the voter-registration process.
According to a letter that Project Vote and other organizations sent to you, OSCE has identified Voter ID laws as a barrier to the right to vote. That letter urged OSCE to monitor states that have taken steps to protect ballot integrity by enacting Voter ID laws. The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about Voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States, where the Supreme Court has already determined that Voter ID laws are constitutional.
If OSCE members want to learn more about our election processes so they can improve their own democratic systems, we welcome the opportunity to discuss the measures Texas has implemented to protect the integrity of elections. However, groups and individuals from outside the United States are not allowed to influence or interfere with the election process in Texas. This State has robust election laws that were carefully crafted to protect the integrity of our election system. All persons—including persons connected with OSCE—are required to comply with these laws.
Elections and election observation are regulated by state law. The Texas Election Code governs anyone who participates in Texas elections—including representatives of the OSCE. The OSCE’s representatives are not authorized by Texas law to enter a polling place. It may be a criminal offense for OSCE’s representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place’s entrance. Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE’s representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law.
Sincerely,
Greg Abbott
Attorney General of Texas
https://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagnews/...mbsBM.facebook
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10-24-2012, 17:19
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The don't call it the Holy Land for nothing. Gotta love it. 
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10-24-2012, 19:38
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God love the State of Texas, well done.
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10-24-2012, 20:04
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I moved out of NY, to a gun friendly state (FL), looks like I should've moved to TX.
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10-25-2012, 05:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about Voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States...
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I like that. I need to rustle up some BBQ.
The letter from the Republic of Texas should be cc'd, Distribution A, to every mailstop at UNHQ, 1st Avenue & E 44th Street, New York, NY 10017. Just to keep members from making unnecessary travel plans - unless, of course, they'd like to be given a tour & history lesson of The Alamo.
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10-25-2012, 16:00
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You would be MOST welcome in Texas Team Sergeant!
Gotta love this State.
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10-25-2012, 17:47
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Most OSCE dweebs I met downrange were over paid oxygen thieves of mediocre bureaucratic abilities. They tended to organize their existence around attending the next diplomatic party or social event. Fuck 'em.
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10-25-2012, 17:49
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Gee, I wonder if they are planing on coming to Arizona? I need a good OC holster.
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10-25-2012, 20:02
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There is already an "Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe" and it has been there since the end of WWII. We call it NATO, and it has done more for Security and Cooperation than anything these "observers" will accomplish.
My query, if anyone knows: Who funds these guys?
Globetrotting to "observe" someone else's election can't be cheap.
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10-25-2012, 23:14
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This letter ust got added to my "favorite things from Texas" list... along with Jess Hall's seasoned salt and my wife (not from Texas but I met her there...).
My hats off to whomever drafted that letter. It sounded much more intelligent than F*@# you which was my first thought when I heard about this.
BTW the Jess Hall's "Chunky" salt is awesome! When I ordered a new 4lb tub, they threw in a bottle for free and it is GREAT.
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Last edited by abc_123; 10-25-2012 at 23:20.
Reason: edited to capitalize the "T" in "Texas". They deserve it!
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10-25-2012, 23:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSB
There is already an "Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe" and it has been there since the end of WWII. We call it NATO, and it has done more for Security and Cooperation than anything these "observers" will accomplish.
My query, if anyone knows: Who funds these guys?
Globetrotting to "observe" someone else's election can't be cheap.
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http://www.osce.org/who
Funding and budget
The OSCE is funded by contributions from its 56 participating States.
On 22 December 2011, the OSCE Permanent Council adopted the Organization's Unified Budget for 2012, totalling EUR 148,055,400 (PC Decision 1028).
Participating States
Albania
Austria
Belgium
Canada
Czech Republic
Finland
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Latvia
Luxembourg
Monaco
Norway
Romania
Serbia
Spain
Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
United States
Andorra
Azerbaijan
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Denmark
France
Greece
Iceland
Kazakhstan
Liechtenstein
Malta
Montenegro
Poland
Russian Federation
Slovakia
Sweden
the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Ukraine
Uzbekistan
Armenia
Belarus
Bulgaria
Cyprus
Estonia
Georgia
Holy See
Ireland
Kyrgyzstan
Lithuania
Moldova
Netherlands
Portugal
San Marino
Slovenia
Switzerland
Turkey
United Kingdom
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Last edited by BKKMAN; 10-25-2012 at 23:39.
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10-26-2012, 01:13
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Originally Posted by BKKMAN
http://www.osce.org/who
Funding and budget
The OSCE is funded by contributions from its 56 participating States....
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Ok, so do we give any sort of aid to those countries?
This is wong on so many levls.
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10-26-2012, 04:45
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Don't really see the problem
Apparently there have been observers from OSZE at US elections since 2002 without any issues.
The US enjoys sending observers to other countries as well, no? Have election procedures in the US always been above reproach?
I don't see how having a couple of folks standing around the polling station, taking notes, could negatively impact the election in Texas. Conversely, however, it would lend credibility to the US in the way of showing willingness to be part of the same measures we like to impose on other countries.
Can someone explain this to me?
Last edited by Geenie; 10-26-2012 at 04:56.
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10-26-2012, 05:42
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there are 110 polling locations in my county. There are 3,033 organized county or county-equivalent governments in the United States (as of 2007).
They are looking for voter fraud 
This whole OSCE thing is a joke.
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“Our observers are required to remain strictly impartial and not to intervene in the voting process in any way,” Lenarčič said. “They are in the United States to observe these elections, not to interfere in them.”
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The United Nations-affiliated Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe will deploy election monitors around the United States on Election Day in an effort to monitor conservative groups for voter suppression or intimidation at polling places.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/21/un...#ixzz2AP87FWrc
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10-26-2012, 06:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geenie
Apparently there have been observers from OSZE at US elections since 2002 without any issues.
The US enjoys sending observers to other countries as well, no? Have election procedures in the US always been above reproach?
I don't see how having a couple of folks standing around the polling station, taking notes, could negatively impact the election in Texas. Conversely, however, it would lend credibility to the US in the way of showing willingness to be part of the same measures we like to impose on other countries.
Can someone explain this to me?
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They can observe all they want--100 feet away from the polling station, just like anyone else who wants to 'observe.' Our State, our laws--obey them.
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