10-06-2012, 17:51
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Team Obama Blames John Kerry for Debate Loss
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10-06-2012, 18:24
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Well, at least they're not blaming Bush for this.
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10-06-2012, 18:38
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Can this MF'er take resp for anything? Anything? I'm so tired of this sh&t I'm getting a freakin rash.
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10-06-2012, 18:56
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Mope and Blame
Further erosion of the myth that is Obama, who preps him for the world stage? He's the PRESIDENT for God's sakes. If he cannot handle an opponent in a simple debate how are we suppose to trust him when he deals with, Iran, N. Korea, Libya the muslim brotherhood etc.etc. I can no longer face the avalanche of emails I get each day concerning his destruction of OUR Uniited States of America. He has gotta go.
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10-06-2012, 19:14
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We need to be more empathetic.
One would think that the excuses are becoming tiresome - even to supporters.
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10-06-2012, 19:40
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Correspondent Bill Plante: "Well Norah, they're simply upset and really outraged. They blame the President's team, first of all, for not preparing him to meet the challenge of an aggressive Mitt Romney. They say that nobody in the room challenged him, including the guy that he was debating with, John Kerry, because, as they say, he wants to be Secretary of State so he's not going to get in the President's face. And Presidents are used to deference; they're not used to people challenging them like that.
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The sycophants have repealed their own DADT policy.
I like the attributed motive of SECSTATE aspiration, that's a nice touch.
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10-06-2012, 19:47
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Originally Posted by PRB
Can this MF'er take resp for anything? Anything? I'm so tired of this sh&t I'm getting a freakin rash.
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Nope. Never has, and never will. The next debate will be more telling. The obama team may get their act together a little better for the next round, however; obama has a four year record that he can not defend. I don't think many will expect anything new in the VP "debate". Biden always gets a walk when he messes up. A serious attack on Biden might be viewed as picking on someone with a mental illness.
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10-07-2012, 06:17
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And Presidents are used to deference; they're not used to people challenging them like that.
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WHAT??? Are you kidding me right now?
There is NO personal accountability with this guy. Unless there is a teleprompter in front of him he has NO clue.
He needs to GTFO of our White House.
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10-07-2012, 09:41
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CBS Sunday Morning 7 Oct2012 Opinion by Ben Stein.
First presidential debate. In Obama, saw a man of dignity and quick with a quip. Romeny: facile with numbers. Presidential dignity in both men. Two men wanted the job to help other people. THis was least rancorous debate Ben Stein has ever seen. No hatred, no talk of punishment. Larry King asked Stein "who won" and Stein said America won.
Y'all ought to google or netflick or stream -- whatever -- the show when they post it. Mr Stein is a severe critic of the President's policies. But, not the man.
Hmmmmmmm?
From this blog: http://ipbiz.blogspot.com.
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10-07-2012, 21:11
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Here it is:
(CBS News) The first Presidential debate in Colorado Wednesday night sparked a new round of opinions about the election, including one from our contributor Ben Stein:
Every so often, I see something that deeply moves me about being an American. It could be a bald eagle soaring above Lake Pend Oreille in North Idaho, keeping pace with my boat. It could be a crowd at a baseball game, all different races and faces, all having a happy time.
The first Presidential debate this year was one of those great moments. In a campaign that's been alternately boring and nasty, this was a night of civility, information, and genuine learning about the men who might be our President.
In President Obama, whom I have often criticized, I saw a man of dignity, deference and politeness, extremely well-informed and quick with a quip that expressed his point of view. I admired his demand for more detail, and his noting the contradictions in Governor Romney's different plans over the years.
In Governor Romney, as to whose chance to win I have been skeptical, I saw a man who still lacks specifics, but who is facile with concepts and numbers, extremely adroit at mixing practicality and ideology. I also saw a man of good humor, who began the evening with congratulations to Mr. Obama on his anniversary and a joke about how he was sure Mr. Obama wanted to spend his big day on a stage with Romney. I saw a Presidential dignity.
Both are men of power and material comfort. Yet I saw what seemed to me to be genuine concern for the less well-off among us. I saw two men who seemed to me to want the job to help people in need and to defend the nation.
I have been following presidential debates since my late pal, Richard Nixon, debated JFK 52 years ago. In my view, this most recent debate was the least rancorous, most fact-filled, most good-natured debate I have ever seen. Two policy wonks, two technocrats, arguing over fairly small points, while in basic agreement about their love of America and their reluctance to change anything basic about this country.
No hatred, no talk of punishment, just a wish to make something great even greater.
Now, much may change in the next few weeks, and the debates on defense and foreign policy may be totally different. But when Larry King asked me after the debate last week who won, I said, "America won," and I meant it.
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(Pend Oreille is pronounced "Pond ah Ray" and it one of the most beautiful lakes in the world. Just a "fun fact" from the Dozer)
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