10-05-2012, 08:25
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MFF soon to be part of the Q course
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10-05-2012, 08:39
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It's about time.
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10-05-2012, 09:14
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Asset
Join Date: Apr 2012
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that looks fun
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10-05-2012, 09:28
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Location: Fayetteville, NC
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What about the guys that are on teams already, some of which have waited years to get into MFF. There is going to be some pissed of guys when young X-Rays start hitting the teams with their cool guy wings.
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10-05-2012, 09:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 69harley
What about the guys that are on teams already, some of which have waited years to get into MFF. There is going to be some pissed of guys when young X-Rays start hitting the teams with their cool guy wings.
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Sympathy cards?
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10-05-2012, 10:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 69harley
What about the guys that are on teams already, some of which have waited years to get into MFF. There is going to be some pissed of guys when young X-Rays start hitting the teams with their cool guy wings.
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Wah.
As a FOG who has seen this and similar insertion issues come up once or twice or thrice ...
When it finally comes down to chuting up and rolling the AC past the PONR the deciding question will be, "Can we absolutely, get The team out."
And when the answer is, "No" or even "Not 'absolutely'",Ya'll might as well crack open a cold one; nobody's going anywhere.
(I hear ya, and on Team I said the same thing and different variations. But "one way" missions don't happen.) 0.02
So the pipeline is how many MILES long now?.
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10-05-2012, 10:46
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From the press release, I see that HAHO is part of the curriculum. In my day HAHO was a working theory. My question is when did HAHO transition from an "advanced skill" to part of the standard course and when did HAHO operations become common on the teams?
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10-05-2012, 11:31
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You guys get to have all the fun!
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10-05-2012, 12:06
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Barracks
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HA--anything has to be a huge rush.. Have you guys ever done it? i was told it doesn't happen to often, maybe people just don't speak of it?
Do you Gentlemen think this move is to keep the QP's on the forefront of operational capability? If a HALO insertion is needed they could just grab a team form that theater and uses them?
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10-05-2012, 12:25
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fayetteville, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dozer523
Wah.
As a FOG who has seen this and similar insertion issues come up once or twice or thrice ...
When it finally comes down to chuting up and rolling the AC past the PONR the deciding question will be, "Can we absolutely, get The team out."
And when the answer is, "No" or even "Not 'absolutely'",Ya'll might as well crack open a cold one; nobody's going anywhere.
(I hear ya, and on Team I said the same thing and different variations. But "one way" missions don't happen.) 0.02
So the pipeline is how many MILES long now?.
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Not whinning. I went in the mid 90s. Running joke then was that getting into MFF was the hardest thing thing the Army had. Again, a joke, but I did go on stanby six times before getting in.
I have many friends that have been on teams for 'awhile' and have had their packets in for 'awhile' and still have not been. All of them are really thrilled that the new guys coming out of the Q will have been to MFF.
Aside from this, has any given any thought as to how/if the groups will maintain
Pro Level 1? My guess is they won't maintain everyone at PL1 and the status quoe of just certain teams.
I feel bad for the guys that have already paid some dues and have not had the opportunity. Seems like a slap in the face.
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10-05-2012, 12:40
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SF Candidate
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Whats " PRO LEVEL 1"?
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10-05-2012, 14:01
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Retention and recruiting numbers must be falling at terminal velocity.
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10-05-2012, 14:19
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What's next?
Wonder if Key West will become incorporated into SFQC as well?
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10-05-2012, 16:24
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Damn...
As difficult as it currently is not being on a HALO team to get a square chute...I can only IMAGINE what it is going to be like when this starts rolling in.
We already have to provide our own JM because the Team guys have to jump "Organic Only" for their pass...
There will be no way to maintain any inkling of proficiency.
This is going to be one more headache. Bright idea faery strikes again -
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10-05-2012, 18:28
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Quote:
Wonder if Key West will become incorporated into SFQC as well?
m&c
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Nope. There are simply not the reasoning, nor the facilities, for such an action.
Plus, the water is not for everyone.
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