08-21-2012, 16:01
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Gov Mitt Romney joins calls for Akin to quit race
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19339362
This may tip the balance on a possible Republican controlled Senate. I wonder how voters will view Gov Romney's request in contrast with the upcoming endorsement on abortion policy at the this year's RNC.
More information (and speculation) on the "human life amendment" can be found here: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ortion-stance/
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08-21-2012, 16:03
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IMO, the issue is not Akin's position on abortion but rather Akin's position on rape.
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08-21-2012, 16:25
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IMO, the issue is not Akin's position on abortion but rather Akin's position on rape.
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Or maybe the consequences of word use and interpretation.
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08-21-2012, 16:51
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Or maybe the consequences of word use and interpretation.
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Or perhaps he meant what he said. 
I don't know what he 'meant' - but he apparently has a CCW for this type of pistol and has created a sticky 'political fratracide' situation for the GOP to try and deal with now during a campaign season that could do without such detractors.
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08-21-2012, 16:52
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IMO, the issue is not Akin's position on abortion but rather Akin's position on rape.
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The DNC will turn that narrative into "he said Akin should quit, but he doesn't want to allow women who have been raped to get an abortion either."
They'll also contrast that with his older pro-choice stance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQGObiGGqY
I believe that before people have forgotten about Akin, the abortion issue will be shoehorned into the discussion. It's already started in some places.
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Or maybe the consequences of word use and interpretation.
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Agreed: "back in chains" "corporations are people" "the private sector is doing fine" "mission accomplished" The saga continues.
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Or perhaps he meant what he said
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Also possible.
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08-21-2012, 17:13
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I believe that before people have forgotten about Akin, the abortion issue will be shoehorned into the discussion. It's already started in some places.
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If one believes that the debate over abortion is about controlling women, it would be hard not to make the connection.
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08-21-2012, 17:56
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IMO, the issue is not Akin's position on abortion but rather Akin's position on rape.
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IMO it's neither, the issue is that Akin is a f***ing idiot and should not be representing the GOP anywhere in the world.
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08-22-2012, 06:26
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Exactly. I found it to be a strange choice of words, but I don't know what Akin meant to say.
The media however knows exactly the meaning and motive..
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08-22-2012, 06:31
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If one believes that the debate over abortion is about controlling women, it would be hard not to make the connection.
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It about creating a discussion, then controlling the discussion to sway a group of people in a direction.
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08-22-2012, 07:00
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It about creating a discussion, then controlling the discussion to sway a group of people in a direction.
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Well - in a critical election year and several years worth of opinion polls showing the GOP as being perceived to be out of touch on these very issues, Akin's remarks and recalcitrance towards the party he claims to represent has now created a foofarah of a discussion which makes it appear beyond his and his party's control - and the consequences could be quite damaging to both.
As far as the MSM goes, I watched an interview of him by NBC this morning that was very balanced and let the man explain himself and his positions w/o the editorializing often seen in such interviews.
IMO candidate Akin is not doing himself or his party any favors by keeping this in the 'cross hairs' of the public's focus..."For 'tis the sport to have the enginer hoist with his own petard"
And so it goes...
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08-22-2012, 07:13
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Or maybe the consequences of word use and interpretation.
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Did you watch the interview? I did, and it came across loud and clear that a) he has a screw loose and b) he is an idiot.
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08-22-2012, 07:55
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How did this gentleman serve for 12 years as a U.S. congressman, and this issue never get vetted before? I could go grab 500 random people off of any street in the U.S., put them in front of a TV camera, and they would be intelligent enough not to say this crap. "Legitimate rape"? Really? A 6-term U.S. Congressman saying this? This is so dumb it doesn't even deserve a discussion.
There is an interesting political side-note to this story: Akin was in a heated primary against two very good opponents; one was a former state treasurer, the other the guy who started the company that makes Germ-X. About 4 weeks out, Akin is trailing in all of the polls. Then, then incumbent, Sen. Claire McCaskill, starts running an ad (she is unopposed in the democrat primary), stating that Akin is too conservative for Missouri.
The ad states that Akin wants to decrease the size of the federal government, is pro-life, basic conservative red-meat issues. As fate would have it, on election day, Akin wins the damned race. Now, of course, McCaskill is happy as a clam that she is running against the opponent of her choice, and the GOP is trying to figure out how to get rid of this clown.
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08-22-2012, 07:57
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There is only one reason the biased media would give any politician a fair interview...
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08-22-2012, 09:21
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Agreed. He was given enough rope...now everyone's just watching out of morbid curiosity to see the stretch factor.
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08-22-2012, 09:55
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Akin committed Bidenism. The repercussions are different...
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