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Old 08-15-2012, 10:41   #1
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SS Admin to Purchase 174000 Rounds of Hollow Point Bullets

http://www.infowars.com/social-secur...point-bullets/

What's up with this?

First it was the Department of Homeland Security, then it was the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and now the Social Security Administration is set to purchase 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets that will be delivered to 41 locations across the country.

A solicitation posted by the SSA on the FedBizOpps website asks for contractors to supply 174,000 rounds of “.357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition.”

An online ammunition retailer describes the bullets as suitable “for peak performance rivaling and sometimes surpassing handloads in many guns,” noting that the ammo is “a great personal defense bullet.”

The synopsis to the solicitation adds that the ammunition is to be shipped to 41 locations within 60 days of purchase. A separate spreadsheet lists those locations, which include the Social Security headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland as well as major cities across the country including Los Angeles, Detroit, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Denver, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Seattle.

Hollow point bullets are designed to expand as they enter the body, causing maximum damage by tearing apart internal organs.

It’s not outlandish to suggest that the Social Security Administration is purchasing the bullets as part of preparations for civil unrest. Social security welfare is estimated to keep around 40 per cent of senior citizens out of poverty. Should the tap run dry in the aftermath of an economic collapse which the Federal Reserve has already told top banks to prepare for, domestic disorder could ensue if people are refused their benefits.

Indeed, earlier this year the Department of Homeland Security ran a drill called Operation Shield which included turning the entrance of a Florida Social Security office into a checkpoint manned by Federal Protective Service officers armed with semiautomatic rifles.

“With their blue and white SUVs circled around the Main Street office, at least one official was posted on the door with a semiautomatic rifle, randomly checking identifications. And other officers, some with K-9s, sifted through the building,” reported the Daily Commercial.

A rash of solicitations by federal agencies for hollow point bullets in recent months has stoked fears that the government is preparing for civil unrest caused by a financial collapse on a scale similar or even larger to scenes already witnessed in Europe over the last two years.

As we reported yesterday, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has put out a contract for 46,000 rounds of hollow point bullets along with 500 paper targets.

Despite initially asking the bullets to be delivered to the National Weather Service, NOAA claimed this was a “clerical error” and insisted the ammunition was being sent to the Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement. Why powerful hollow point bullets that are designed to tear apart internal organs are needed for practice shooting at paper targets has not been explained.

Back in March, Homeland Security purchased 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage, prompting questions as to why the DHS needed such a large amount of powerful bullets merely for training purposes.

This was followed by another DHS solicitation asking for a further 750 million rounds of assorted bullets, including 357 mag rounds that are able to penetrate walls.

The DHS recently put out an order for riot gear in preparation for the upcoming DNC, RNC and presidential inauguration. The U.S. Army is also busy buying similar equipment.

The DHS also recently purchased a number of bullet-proof checkpoint booths that include ‘stop and go’ lights.

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Old 08-15-2012, 11:00   #2
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That's the second time I've seen someone speculate that they are arming up for the elections this year and the 'civil unrest' that will occur regardless of who wins.

This was in the article released yesterday about the NWS purchase:

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The DHS recently put out an order for riot gear in preparation for the upcoming DNC, RNC and presidential inauguration. The U.S. Army is also busy buying similar equipment.
The DHS also recently purchased a number of bullet-proof checkpoint booths that include ‘stop and go’ lights.
The federal government is clearly gearing up for the likelihood of civil unrest on a scale that could outstrip what we’ve already seen in countries across Europe.
I've seen people suggest that if Obama looses, or is in fear of losing, that he could enact martial law. Surely this is stuff of tin-foil hat land, but still...

While the riot gear they ordered is in very small quantities (141-157 units ea. https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&m...=core&_cview=0), when you put it all together what do you have?
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:18   #3
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I've seen people suggest that if Obama looses, or is in fear of losing, that he could enact martial law. Surely this is stuff of tin-foil hat land, but still... when you put it all together what do you have?

Crap! they were all out of Catcher in the Rye at Barnes and Nobles! I'm gonna have to tape my eyes open!!!
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:30   #4
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Crap! they were all out of Catcher in the Rye at Barnes and Nobles! I'm gonna have to tape my eyes open!!!
Uh, oh. We must be running out of toilet paper, too!

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Full disclosure, I am a major investor in Alcoa Aluminum.

There is also the chance that the US Gvt. could be buying up the stocks/market of handgun ammo in order to deny availability to others... and/or to put out of business the smaller manufactures in order to consolidate the market, again in order to deny availability to others...
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:58   #6
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What's up with this?
It's the power of the internet being put to use.

An update from your source:

The Department of Homeland Security has redacted information relating to the quantity of bullets it is buying following a controversy concerning the agency’s purchase of over a billion rounds of ammo, which many fear is a sign the federal government is preparing for civil unrest in the United States.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:16   #7
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Do we not have armed security guards on duty protecting the SSA buildings, too? I would think there are quite a few buildings, quite a few security guards, and quite a few rounds of ammo which are fired annually for practice.

Now - if the Pomegranate Growers for Obama/Biden or the Chimney Sweeps of Little Havana for Romney/Ryan were buying all that ammo...
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Do we not have armed security guards on duty protecting the SSA buildings, too? I would think there are quite a few buildings, quite a few security guards, and quite a few rounds of ammo which are fired annually for practice.

Now - if the Pomegranate Growers for Obama/Biden or the Chimney Sweeps of Little Havana for Romney/Ryan were buying all that ammo...

It's been a while but the last time I was down to the IRS office on Green Street I didn't see any armed guards - same with the SSA office here in town.

Ain't for guards - it's for enforcement.

As a side note/question - at the buildings that do have guards - at they SSA/IRS employees or is building security contracted out?
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It's been a while but the last time I was down to the IRS office on Green Street I didn't see any armed guards - same with the SSA office here in town.

Ain't for guards - it's for enforcement.
Enforcement is a good point - there are security guards at those govt office bldgs here in Dallas.
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That's the second time I've seen someone speculate that they are arming up for the elections this year and the 'civil unrest' that will occur regardless of who wins.

This was in the article released yesterday about the NWS purchase:



I've seen people suggest that if Obama looses, or is in fear of losing, that he could enact martial law. Surely this is stuff of tin-foil hat land, but still...

While the riot gear they ordered is in very small quantities (141-157 units ea. https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&m...=core&_cview=0), when you put it all together what do you have?
This is the same crappola the Dems were putting out about Bush prior to the 08 election. That Bush would enact marshal law and find some way to ensure that the election didn't happen so he could remain in power.

Last time I checked, we had a peaceful transition of power. Maybe someone out there is just guilty of wishful thinking and by putting crap like this out there are hoping for a self fulfilling prophecy.
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Ain't for guards - it's for enforcement.
FWIW, the SSA's office of the inspector general's office of investigation provides information on its law enforcement activities here.
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Old 08-15-2012, 16:22   #13
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Not as much ammo as we might think.

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FWIW, the SSA's office of the inspector general's office of investigation provides information on its law enforcement activities here.
Good info, but you have to look hard it.

Look under careers/Criminal Investigator to see pamphlet. It says that only the Criminal Investigators are armed.

However...

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We have a staff of approximately 600 employees, 70% of whom are criminal investigators and auditors. However, we also employ information technology specialists, attorneys, program analysts, and management analysts.


600 employees @ 70% (CI and Aud, just CI would be much less) = 420
174000/420 = 414.285714285714

That's about 400 rounds per person that runs a gun at the SSA, perhaps double that as only the CI's have guns. Barely enough rounds to keep them qualified; let alone come and get one of the posters on this site OR even to capture a group of monkeys that escaped from a local zoo for that matter.

I know we were taking 100's of thousands of Title X down to South America to train the LBG's every time I deployed. It was never enough.
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600 employees @ 70% (CI and Aud, just CI would be much less) = 420
174000/420 = 414.285714285714
Leave it to the 'bean counters'...
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