08-14-2012, 16:24
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Camp Mackall
Camp Mackall pic, or more appropriately, the Rowe Training Facility and vicinity.
Only a few of the "old" buildings left, most in the SFAS cadre area, the PX, TMC, gym, etc.
You really old guys would find nothing left there that you remember, other than the roads and the airfield. 
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08-14-2012, 16:38
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Needs a water buffalo with a brass plaque dedicating it to SFTG on display out in front of the HQs building. 
And so it goes...
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08-14-2012, 16:49
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Where's the tricycle hanging from the tree?
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08-14-2012, 17:00
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I was out there last year and got lost. Luckily I was with a guy that knew where we were going. The place is absolutely unrecognizable now.
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08-14-2012, 17:03
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I was out there last year...The place is absolutely unrecognizable now. |
Why? What the hell did you do to it now? 
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08-14-2012, 17:05
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Thanks Richard, nice "redact".
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08-14-2012, 17:12
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08-15-2012, 05:28
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Is that asphalt?
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08-15-2012, 06:27
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To get a sense of history
To get a sense of history the lower, longer section in the picture running left to right was the old rail road recieving point for the camp.
If you go up to the old post area of Ft Bragg you'll see all the single story white buildings east of the brick buildings. Same set up in WW II.
In 1974 all the original buildings were long gone but the pavement and cement pads remained. The GP medium tents with wood frames that we stayed in were set up on the cement pads to the left of the Up/Down road - the section to the right was used to land choppers.
Still a number of coal bins for the old wood barracks scattered through the woods.
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08-15-2012, 07:04
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Here's a map of Camp Mackall in WW2 when it was home for Airborne Command and the 17th Airborne Division.
The small square area numbered 1 was the home of the 508th PIR.
The base was home to as many as 2,640 officers and 27,000 enlisted men.
Sure was a different place in SFTG but like Pete said - roads, pads, coal bins, and drainage pipe systems were still to be found throughout the area.
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“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
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08-15-2012, 15:36
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I was out there last year and got lost. Luckily I was with a guy that knew where we were going. The place is absolutely unrecognizable now. |
We should get a good Military modeler to make a Model of the old CMK. Or several models covering the major changes.
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08-15-2012, 18:40
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I'd like to find the tree I was frozen to that cold February night everybody quit...
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08-15-2012, 18:51
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
We should get a good military modeler to make a model of the old CMK, or several models covering the major changes.
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Complete with toy soldiers melting in the summertime. I went through Phase I in July and it was hell.
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08-15-2012, 18:59
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I'd like to find the tree I was frozen to that cold February night everybody quit...
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Not ' everybody', Mark, but a huge percentage of those of us left, that's for sure. I think it took six months for my @$$ to unfreeze from the jungle ruck I was sitting on to keep it out of that swamp the cadre put us in for our RONs during those cold, windy, sleeting nights.
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08-16-2012, 16:12
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I should have said, "A large percentage quit..."
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