10-14-2004, 10:48
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Kerry/Edwards and Mary Cheney
What do you guys think of both Kerry and Edwards bringing the VP's daughter's sexuality into the debates?
Full disclosure - I support lesbianism and the right to privacy for politicians families not running for public office.
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10-14-2004, 11:05
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What do you guys think of both Kerry and Edwards bringing the VP's daughter's sexuality into the debates?
Full disclosure - I support lesbianism and the right to privacy for politicians families not running for public office.
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I think it was in extreme bad taste to use the VP's daughter as an example. Furthermore, Mrs. Cheney spoke out about it and Mrs. Edwards sound bite is she must be ashamed of her daughter. WTF.
Edit....that comment was made by the Mrs. of the wannabe VP candidate
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10-14-2004, 11:18
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Oh yes...and if Mary Cheney is "fair game" then so is Mrs. Ketchup-face.
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10-14-2004, 11:22
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NDD's full disclosure policy... ah hahaha!
Not surprised as Edwards pulled the same tactic. But it continues to confirm my opinion of his character. I believe it's inappropriate to speak on behalf of anyone unless asked to do so (which I am sure she did not).
He definitely shot himself in the toe...  ... was it enough to neutralize him... me think not but wish it were so..... 
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10-14-2004, 11:24
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Edwards seems to be relishing his role in this election. He really gets in to the bashing.
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10-14-2004, 11:53
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During the VP debates, when VP Chaney chose not to dignify Edwards' comments by giving a response, that, in itself, spoke volumes.
During last night's debate, Kerry tried using the ploy of tugging at viewers heartstrings by referring to a conversation he had with his mother before her death. He said he was discussing with her the possibility of running for Pres. and her response was , "Integrity, integrity, integrity." Obviously, Kerry wasn't listening.
After the debates and flipping the channels to catch some of the spin the talking heads were doing, ( and I hate to admit I even stopped clicking long enough to hear what this man said), but Dick Morris, (who, as you remember, resigned in 1996 as one of Clinton's advisors when it was alleged that he let a prostitute listen in on his conversation with the President) was asked this same question.
His reply: "It was revolting."
It may be the only thing Morris has ever said that I agree with.
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10-14-2004, 13:08
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It was uncalled for, in poor taste, and most importantly, it was a diversion from the subject in an attempt to make the President and VP seem somehow hypocritical despite the fact that Cheney has been on record as against a constitutional ban for some time.
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10-14-2004, 13:16
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Edwards seems to be relishing his role in this election. He really gets in to the bashing.
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Hopefully, soon enough, he can join Al Gore in getting used to his new role as the most recent irrelevant man in America.
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10-14-2004, 18:51
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Edwards seems to be relishing his role in this election. He really gets in to the bashing.
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Aggreed. He may relish it for now, but everytime I see this guys face I can't help feeling that somewhere .... they'res some fat guy with a beer can in hand smirking...., as he harkens back to school days and beyoch slappin' him for his lunch money everyday......
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10-14-2004, 22:55
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I am proud to state that I am a lesbian.
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10-14-2004, 22:57
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Lol - Hahaha (10 character rule and what not)
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10-14-2004, 23:20
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First off, Hello I am a college senior who has just enlisted with an option 40 contract and with hope and drive for the SF. I run cross country, and enjoy reading (even some of the dry stuff we are required to read for class).
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What do you guys think of both Kerry and Edwards bringing the VP's daughter's sexuality into the debates?
Full disclosure - I support lesbianism and the right to privacy for politicians families not running for public office.
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at any rate I have grown to dislike the new height that poltical mudslinging has reached. I don't like either sides willingness to pull up dirt on the other. I suppose it is politics as usual but this election seems particularly nasty from both sides. The above is a perfect example. I feel the tooth and nail poltical brawls of this season divert attention from the problems we are all faceing together as a nation. We are fighting an elusive enemy and that dirt that gets brought to the fore during the election could be used by our enemies for explotation in the future term.
just my 2 cents
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10-14-2004, 23:25
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Welcome aboard college boy. Yum Yum! Chomp! Chomp!
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10-14-2004, 23:39
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Hey there, easy on the college cracks. Don't be jealous just because I'm surrounded every day by thousands of gorgeous single women. I have to get some benefit out of living in this hippie-dip town.
I disagree with our new member here on the mudslinging. Not in that I think it should be there; of course not. But that it's anything new. Every single election people crop up and say, 'This is the dirtiest one yet!', but it's only because people tend to have very short memories. I'm sure many of you remember Mr. Dukakis being asked about his feelings on the death penalty if it were his wife raped and murdered. Or the famous 'Daisy' ad implying that Goldwater would lead us straight into nuclear holocaust were he elected. Or, hell, the taunt back in Cleveland's day 'Ma, ma, where's my pa?' (referring to a child he allegedly sired out of wedlock, which was met, after Cleveland's victory, with the retort 'Gone to the White House, ha ha ha!'). There's nothing new about your gripe: I'd be willing to bet every major election in history has had its share of people bitching that 'There's too much mudslinging nowadays! We should get back to the issues!'.
History repeats itself for those who fail to learn from it.
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10-14-2004, 23:50
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Good point DanUCSB
I am still young so I never thought of it that way... maybe I have been dumbed down by my tenure in slacktown...
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