06-28-2012, 15:03
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Shootings at Ft Bragg?
Shootings at Ft Bragg? What's going on gents?
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06-28-2012, 15:25
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06-28-2012, 16:05
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Police investigate shooting incident at Fort Bragg that leaves 1 officer dead
Police officials are investigating a shooting that took place at Fort Bragg, N.C. on Thursday afternoon, according to a public affairs spokesman.
The Army Times reported that a senior officer has been shot dead by an enlisted soldier, who then shot himself. A ricocheting bullet left a second soldier wounded, officials said.
The incident occurred on the base, which is home to the Army's Airbourne and Special Operations Forces, at 3:30 p.m.
Officers are urging pedestrians and drivers to avoid the area around the historic section of Fort Bragg until further notice.
Local police will hold a news conference at 6 p.m. ET.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/28...#ixzz1z80lYdDc
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06-28-2012, 16:08
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T-zUh3BJFOx
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Update at 5:39 p.m. ET: NBC News is reporting that a battalion commander is dead and that at least one person was shot, citing a "senior U.S. defense official."
The officer, who has not been identified, was shot near the 18th Airborne Headquarters in a "distinctly military headquarters area," the official told NBC
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06-28-2012, 16:53
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Enlisted shot Officer during safety brief, turned gun on self. Injured self and stray bullet injured bystander.
Shooter in custody.
SM not in Division or Special Operations. That only leaves...........
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06-28-2012, 16:59
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525 Battlefield Surveillance Bde.
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06-28-2012, 17:13
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525 Battlefield Surveillance Bde.
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Yep.
Military Intelligence at its finest.
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06-28-2012, 17:40
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No it is the post MP unit.. Not MI.
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06-28-2012, 17:43
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No it is the post MP unit.. Not MI.
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I disagree:
The 525th Battlefield Surveillance Brigade provides intelligence analysis and collection support to the XVIII Airborne Corps. It is the only rapidly deployable battlefield surveillance brigade in the United States Army. The brigade headquarters, two MI battalions and a Cavalry Squadron are stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. The brigade’s capabilities include a full range of advanced intelligence analysis and intelligence collection that includes counterintelligence, long range surveillance, aerial signals intelligence, and Tactical Exploitation of National Capabilities (TENCAP). Its Soldiers come from across the range of Military Occupational Specialties in the Army to include military intelligence disciplines, infantry, aviation, signal, and the full range of critical Combat Support and Combat Service Support experts. Its mission is to provide all-source, predictive intelligence and electronic warfare in support of worldwide contingency operations.
Are you saying that the shooter was an MP?
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06-28-2012, 17:52
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Quote:
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Yep.
Military Intelligence at its finest.
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Ouch.
I worked with them a few years ago OCONUS and they did very well. Clearly that was then, this is now; only with issues.
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06-28-2012, 18:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnGoat
No it is the post MP unit.. Not MI.
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NOT..The 18th Abn Corps PAO stated it was the 525 BSB...which is Intel..They even have a FB page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/525th-...15783351769371
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06-28-2012, 18:14
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it is in fact 525 MI, not MP
I didn't say it earlier because, I have no idea what has been said by who and I don't want my words to come back on my source.
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06-28-2012, 18:34
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06-28-2012, 19:52
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Sorry stand corrected. It was 525 MI. It was a Officer that was shot by one of his solders. Also another solder was shot.
One surprising thing or fact is that Bragg has had by Feb this year, 13 suicides which was the same number for all if last year. I'm told the number is around 36-38. I bring this up just be cause the shooter tried to commit suicide. Tried giving a pistol a BJ, that went well.
Pray go out to the families. God bless.
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06-28-2012, 20:07
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When a pistol is about to break, the locking block may show cracks, or the frame may show signs of stress at certain points. Once this is noticed, the unit exerts a lot of effort to repair the weapon and it is tagged and not fired until it is fixed.
When our Soldiers are about to break, morale sinks, marriage issues become more pronounced, acts of indiscipline become more prevalent. But, do we "deadline" our Soldiers/units for a while? Do we give our units a break? Heck no. We keep deploying them until they finally break.
In my career, I have heard many commanders speak about how much they care about the families. Yet, I have seldom seen a commander say "no" to a deployment, or a training mission, because he/she felt that the Soldiers needed time off.
Even rarer is the occurrence of a command turning down taskers at the source. We can do anything, every time, but NOT everything, all the time. It's that simple.
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